City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[aguero93:20]

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Particularly given that UEFA and it's vast revenues are based outside of the EU...

Switzerland is in the EU, just not in the single-currency area, same status as the UK.

They're not a member state AFAIK.

Sorry, they're not a full member, my bad, but for FFP purposes, they've signed all the same economic treaties with the EU that the rest of us have<br /><br />-- Tue May 06, 2014 1:17 pm --<br /><br />Pellegrini refused to comment on FFP 'speculation' in his Presser, said nothing is official yet.

 

[BlueDejong]

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Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes 1h
If FFP was really about "fair play" rather than punishing certain excesses/inequalities & ignoring others, it would be welcome. But it's not

Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes 20m
@honigstein @DanielHarris FFP was meant to address all manner of inequalities/excesses (including debt). If it had, it would've been great.

Oliver Kay ‏@OliverKayTimes 16m
@honigstein @DanielHarris But it hasn't. Uefa agenda changed on say-so of the biggest clubs, so everyone else fell meekly into line. A pity.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

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@OliverKayTimes · 2h

About to get very ugly between #MCFC and Uefa re FFP. City so far rejecting proposed €60m fine (over 3 yrs) & reduction of Champs Lge squad

Yeah, course, another fucking blagger ^^^^^

Bit like me saying it's about to get ugly, 'Tolmie willing to fight against having his member cut off with a rusty hacksaw'.

Nobody of any note, gives ANYTHING away for free on Twitter.

City are keeping their own counsel.

Tolm,
Do you really think UEFA want someone (us) to take FFP to a court ruling to get it bottomed out?

Could they really be looking for an out so they can ditch the whole thing?

Are we complicit in this?

I do think Platini's recent interview with Martin Samuel was a truer insight to these rules.

He conceded the clubs of influence were on his case to do something. He also proved to have little expertise as to how it could play out.

They are not that smart, IMO, so I don't believe we are complicit.

Otherwise, we would have gone out and splashed the money we wanted to on Isco, Hazard and Cavani.

The real threat comes from retrospective damages we could claim in court.

Personally, I believe we should take the United route and splash £250m plus this summer, state we will not participate in next season's Champions League, despite being the English champions.

I believe our spending, could not then be assessed, as we were not competing in Europe next season?

By which time, in 12 months time, the courts will have ruled in our favour, and we go again.

 

[gh_mcfc]

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An additional tag line to Sky Sport's news bar on this is that we

...have until the end of the week to agree sanctions with UEFA or decision will be made by panel.

If we don't sort something out, anyone know how long the panel are expected to sit before coming to a decision?

Gill will fit it around sorting out Van Gals contract. Got to get the important things done first.

 

[Ducado]

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Switzerland is in the EU, just not in the single-currency area, same status as the UK.

They're not a member state AFAIK.

Sorry, they're not a full member, my bad, but for FFP purposes, they've signed all the same economic treaties with the EU that the rest of us have

-- Tue May 06, 2014 1:17 pm --

Pellegrini refused to comment on FFP 'speculation' in his Presser, said nothing is official yet.

They have some treaties with the EU and that's about it!

 

[Dribble]

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UEFA need to be very careful here, now im a thicko, i know that, but even to me this sounds mad:

An expanding club that is creating jobs, improving a local community and has no debt, is being persecuted by an organisation that:

1. Almost condoans racism with its piss poor fines
2. Takes bribes
3. Goes back on decisions made against clubs like Barca
4. IS effectively monopolising the game
5. Is stating that a club in £500m debt is in a better financial position to continue than city are
6. is pulling fine figures out of thin air, i mean where have the got £50m from? i was sort if expecting £5m at worse, not fuckign £50m

This

 

[without a dream]

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That Rumsby bloke is about to go on talksport.............. should be fun.

Hawksbee and Jacobs won't give FFP too much credence I wouldn't have thought, they'll question where the money's going, if it's true that UEFA have said they don't know where it's going then that's almost as scandalous as the fine in the first place.

 

[Jimfv1]

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Couldn't we pull out of the Chumps League and give our spot to Everton, the rags would get the Europa spot they crave and we could play, say 5 exhibition games this season instead of European competition, let's say £20 million per game ?

That would get UEFA thinking !

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

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There is nothing to stop City and Etihad now renegotiating an £80m a year deal, if the Paris Qatar benchmark has been reviewed down to this.

No, there's nothing to stop us negotiating an £86m p/a sponsorship with the Abu Dhabi tourism authority that doesn't require any stadium or jersey sponsorship, so even better.

Of course, nice work!

I forgot PSG don't actually have to do anything for that money as it stands.

 

[aguero93:20]

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They're not a member state AFAIK.

Sorry, they're not a full member, my bad, but for FFP purposes, they've signed all the same economic treaties with the EU that the rest of us have

-- Tue May 06, 2014 1:17 pm --

Pellegrini refused to comment on FFP 'speculation' in his Presser, said nothing is official yet.

They have some treaties with the EU and that's about it!

They signed the free trade agreements and UEFA operate with EU states so have to obey article 101 - been proved before with the Bosman ruling.