City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[mike channon´s windmill]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

IF the punishment is true, then UEFA have left City with no possible option but to go down the legal route. I don't care how rich Sheikh Mansour is; £50m is a huge amount of money and he isn't in the habit of just blindly chucking that sort of cash around to appease a bunch of corrupt, lying bastards in Switzerland.

We were repeatedly assured that as long as we were moving in the right direction towards compliance then there wouldn't be any major issue. People like Sheikh Mansour don't appreciate being blatantly misled like that and I'm certain he will challenge this.

FFP so clearly contravenes EU law that I'm amazed UEFA have been so aggressive in their stance. The whole concept relies on the 'offending' clubs jumping on board with it, because once it is challenged in the courts the whole thing will unravel.

I'm sure City would have accepted a £10m fine now with £40m suspended against compliance within 2 years as that would be a sensible approach to the issue. But £50m is all stick and no carrot, and it leaves City with very little choice but to take this to the top and blow it wide open.

This all day long

 

[Citizen of Legoland]

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Such a shame that it took so long for almost all of these hacks to cop on to the three card trick that is FFP.

Nobody wants a one-sided competition. Some of us remember how dull the league was in the early eighties when Liverpool dominated, the rest of us fighting for scraps. Most commentators, both professional and casual, just want whats best for their own club and naturally feel threatened by clubs who can just out-spend yours.

However, it is clear that when one club tries to follow the rules but fails and one doesn't but fails by more, the punishments should not be the same (although this appears to be an attempt to split City from PSG - PSG might just pay, thinking they have been lucky). Here in the UK, we have an inbuilt desire for fairness. We are the home of modern democracy after all. As for Europe, I cannot say, but the southern european nations seem to think differently.

 

[Pam]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

IF the punishment is true, then UEFA have left City with no possible option but to go down the legal route. I don't care how rich Sheikh Mansour is; £50m is a huge amount of money and he isn't in the habit of just blindly chucking that sort of cash around to appease a bunch of corrupt, lying bastards in Switzerland.

We were repeatedly assured that as long as we were moving in the right direction towards compliance then there wouldn't be any major issue. People like Sheikh Mansour don't appreciate being blatantly misled like that and I'm certain he will challenge this.

FFP so clearly contravenes EU law that I'm amazed UEFA have been so aggressive in their stance. The whole concept relies on the 'offending' clubs jumping on board with it, because once it is challenged in the courts the whole thing will unravel.

I'm sure City would have accepted a £10m fine now with £40m suspended against compliance within 2 years as that would be a sensible approach to the issue. But £50m is all stick and no carrot, and it leaves City with very little choice but to take this to the top and blow it wide open.

This all day long

Kill them all, then. We have bigger fish to fry.

 

[EalingBlue2]

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I love the go to war mentality let's go and fight regardless of the consequences, regardless of what the end result is. It's so George Dubya and to be fair it's what most people thought in 1914.

You don't fight footballs governing body, all the other clubs, the media etc without everybody losing in the end including us.

UEFA can fight dirty and cause so much damage that wen if we win in the end we will have lost.

Honestly would you today accept the break up of this team, years of chronic publicity (20x worse than today) to end up winning a fine that won't go to city and potentially breaking apart a game and turning football into a European form of gridiron with 20 super teams and no promotion relegation etc

People need to think about the consequences to us and football of going to war with the game and going to war with football as they could be far wider and worse than imagined.

In 1914 people wanted war, a tidy quick victory and 100m people died . A footballing war could have war wider consequences that kill much of what people love in the game and that may be more unpallatable than an immaterial fine and a but if harm to our champs league prospects for one season

You are mistaking fan rhetoric for what the club will do people are quite angry and they are just venting I think a little empathy on your side would help, we all know that eventually something will be sorted out behind closed doors

Do you think Real,Barca ,Bayern would think twice about it,if they were trying to be hit by corruption ?

They would all do a deal as they have shown many times p

 

[sir baconface]

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The UK media detest Platini, this is their chance to crucify him and they'll back us in order to get to him.
They don't really give a shit about our club as long as they can use us as ammunition against Platini and UEFA.

Conflict often brings strange bedfellows together.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend, so to speak

And we should use whatever resources/support we can, while remembering they are there for their own reasons and won't always be with us.

 

[marco]

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not read to much of the thread but can city just say were not paying the fine and were not accepting the 21 player sanction 'up yours and see you in court' eliminate us from the champions lge and there will be issues with the tv companys and other sponsors, more or less call their bluff

 

[Pam]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

not read to much of the thread but can city just say were not paying the fine and were not accepting the 21 player sanction 'up yours and see you in court' eliminate us from the champions lge and there will be issues with the tv companys and other sponsors, more or less call their bluff

It would be better if we weren't the only ones saying that. I don't know what the PSG position is.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

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Fining us £50m doesn't only hurt us, it hurts the other clubs who would have had that cash in exchange for 2 or 3 of their upcoming highly promising players that we may have purchased.

 

[marco]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

not read to much of the thread but can city just say were not paying the fine and were not accepting the 21 player sanction 'up yours and see you in court' eliminate us from the champions lge and there will be issues with the tv companys and other sponsors, more or less call their bluff

It would be better if we weren't the only ones saying that. I don't know what the PSG position is.

tbh id rather us fucked them off than bow down to the fines, basically there saying you overspent so pay us 50 million to enter

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Re: City & FFP (continued)

not read to much of the thread but can city just say were not paying the fine and were not accepting the 21 player sanction 'up yours and see you in court' eliminate us from the champions lge and there will be issues with the tv companys and other sponsors, more or less call their bluff

My thoughts too.

Also, surely one of the main reasons for participating in the CL is the money. £-50m kinda makes that a bit pointless being in it from that perspective I would have thought.