City & FFP | 2020/21 Accounts released | Revenues of £569.8m, £2.4m profit (p 2395)

[squirtyflower]

I wondered how long it would be before this fucker stuck his head above the parapet - read it and weep tears of laughter blues:

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Just how bitter and inaccurate is that article

Sat here with a smile on my face thinking of them all having headaches today

 

[moomba]

I suspect even if the rules are changed as seems likely we won't see much difference in our spending. We can buy big and stay within the existing rules.

 

[EL APACHE TEVEZ]

I wondered how long it would be before this fucker stuck his head above the parapet - read it and weep tears of laughter blues:

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Resentment or what oh dear.

 

[squirtyflower]

I dont understand why they keep saying 'great news for Man City' ....why ? we are now FFP compliant and free to spend so its not helping us in any way !! we would be in a stronger position if they continued with FFP it would give us a chance to leap further ahead of the others

The narrative being it's only our Arab oil billions that keeps us afloat, we would have gone under with FFP, and so we have argued to have it stopped, which is why the rules are being 'relaxed'

Or you could read:
We have a fantastic business plan that is now paying dividends after our 'pinch' of the the last three years
We could splash the cash this year as we have balanced the books and more
FFP isn't working, or is losing in the courts, so UEFA need to throw it out so let's blame big bad Manchester
City

 

[jrb]

It's simple.

No matter what the truth is, once again City along with PSG will be seen as the villains who forced Platini and UEFA in a u-turn.

Every f***er who has an agenda against City, mainly United, Arsenal, and Liverpool fans, etc, are pointing the finger again.

Not that I'm arsed TBH. :-)

 

[The Colonel]

I wondered how long it would be before this fucker stuck his head above the parapet - read it and weep tears of laughter blues:

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Just how bitter and inaccurate is that article

Sat here with a smile on my face thinking of them all having headaches today

The idiots have been completely brainwashed by their money grabbing owners into thinking that they are the model of moral perfection. Meanwhile the gullible aresewipes blindly turf out for the most expensive tickets in world football, while the owners cream off the profits and deliver just enough 'succes' to keep the incomes up.

 

[halfcenturyup]

On a side note, it would be great if this leads to some major investment at clubs like Villa, Newcastle, Forest, the Sheffield clubs and Leeds, for example, so that they can compete again. Naah, strike Leeds, but you know what I mean. I suspect the values of those clubs are going up overnight .....

 

[FogBlueInSanFran]

I wondered how long it would be before this fucker stuck his head above the parapet - read it and weep tears of laughter blues:

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Resentment or what oh dear.

And here I was almost positive Arsenal didn't win the Prem -- or even finish 2nd -- for years before City got rich.

I must have been mistaken. Or was that actually City's fault too?

 

[Pam]

I wondered how long it would be before this fucker stuck his head above the parapet - read it and weep tears of laughter blues:

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Resentment or what oh dear.

And here I was almost positive Arsenal didn't win the Prem -- or even finish 2nd -- for years before City got rich.

I must have been mistaken. Or was that actually City's fault too?

On the grounds that everything is City's fault, then yes this too is City's fault.

 

[blueinsa]

Nothing can be finer than knowing we have the tarquins frothing at the mouth as the realisation we are going nowhere slowly but surely dawns on their empty heads.

 

[bluegaz13]

And I think there are always other ways forwards. Remember in the early part of this century, clubs all over the place spoke of “doing an Arsenal” and bringing youngsters through. It is something we have continued to do, with Bellerin and Coquelin being this year’s examples. If this process can be expanded further and further, it could still help outwit the effects of money being splashed here there and everywhere.

However maybe that’s for another article.

These people have serously selective/deluded memories......if my memory serves me correctly, weren't Arsenal the first team to have a none British first eleven !!!!

 

[Newman Noggs]

I wondered how long it would be before this fucker stuck his head above the parapet - read it and weep tears of laughter blues:

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Delicious. I'm a sucker for Dickensian pathos. This one is hurting.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

It's simple.

No matter what the truth is, once again City along with PSG will be seen as the villains who forced Platini and UEFA in a u-turn.

Every f***er who has an agenda against City, mainly United, Arsenal, and Liverpool fans, etc, are pointing the finger again.

Not that I'm arsed TBH. :-)

Exactly .
The real facts of this climb down ( the sudden panic in Milan , and the realisation that once again M. DuPont has shown them up for the bent incompetents that they are) will be obscured and confused by the football and media establishment who will now feed the half-truths and innuendos to a hungry public who will believe exactly what is put in front of their noses.
I feel I shouldn't be arsed as well , but when you hear (and read) some of the ill-informed crap that is spouted about City and our owners,I can't help but get angry and saddened at the hate and ignorance.

 

[BigOscar]

And I think there are always other ways forwards. Remember in the early part of this century, clubs all over the place spoke of “doing an Arsenal” and bringing youngsters through. It is something we have continued to do, with Bellerin and Coquelin being this year’s examples. If this process can be expanded further and further, it could still help outwit the effects of money being splashed here there and everywhere.

However maybe that’s for another article.

These people have serously selective/deluded memories......if my memory serves me correctly, weren't Arsenal the first team to have a none British first eleven !!!!

It's also glossing over the fact that Bellerin, like most of their "youth players" was poached from Barca's academy and that Coquelin is 24 years old. (also from someone elses academy, but I think the other team actually agreed to that sale, rather than being poached)

 

[SilverFox2]

I suspect even if the rules are changed as seems likely we won't see much difference in our spending. We can buy big and stay within the existing rules.

Perhaps high spending was in the Business Plan already or maybe just maintenance spending ?.

The fact that we could spend big does not mean that we will, I am sure that ADUG will just ignore any changes to FFP and stick to their BP which as I remember was to concentrate on Commercial matters ?

 

[Danamy]

Khaldoon's interview will be interesting after the clubs "pinch" comment, something tells me he may have a wry smile on his face?

 

[Bill]

I expect nothing less than our £16m to be returned with interest and a public apology from UEFA which would include an acknowledgement that they were entirely in the wrong, that their actions were illegal and that they have paid compensation to us for a) besmirching our good name and b) hindering our organic growth.

16m is fuck all. its the allowing for the cartel to catch us up and the blatant cheating regarding coefficients. had we won another title and made proper progress in the CL we would have any number of new fans ready to swell our coffers.

the whole thing has been a con and 16m goes nowhere near making it good.

 

[M18CTID]

I wondered how long it would be before this fucker stuck his head above the parapet - read it and weep tears of laughter blues:

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Resentment or what oh dear.

Great response from a Chelsea fan (Mike T) on there - how he continues to debate so rationally on that site in the face of so many untruths spouted by Attwood down the years I'll never know but I guess he gets a lot of satisfaction out of correcting Attwood time and time again:

FFP or at least UEFAs version was a always going to fail. Once you tried to regulate clubs who traded in different currencies, in differing tax regimes etc you could never have a level playing field in relation to country to country but despite what anyone is saying the real blow it out of the water moment is that latest Sky/BT TV deal. In effect a club that finishes 20th in the PL has more buying power than just about all of UEFA leagues bar probably 3 clubs and UEFA couldn’t stomach the fact that PL is a wash with cash.
The French, Italian and German clubs who were led to the top of the hill by Platini had no where to go other than March back down the hill
The only way FFP will work is countries to sign up to their own rules and despite what Tony keeps saying at this point in time the PL version of FFP is still in process and we are just coming to the end of the second of three years that start the monitoring process. There was never any intention to use one years accounts in isolation it was always to be a 3 year rolling process
As I have said before I am not wholly comfortable with the number of players out on loan from Chelsea but despite the clear inference from Tony Chelsea aren’t the architects of this model nor indeed do they have anywhere near the number of players out on loan that some Italian and Portuguese clubs have and as for players out on emergency loans to FL clubs there are only a couple from Chelsea the vast bulk are on either 6 month or season long loans
As for the suggestion again by Tony that players extending their contaracts to lessen the impact of their instal transfer fee is something Chelsea introduced to get around FFP well I would suggest you refer to Arsenals accounts going back a decade or more ago and in the comments you will read that Arsenal we’re extending players contracts and the subsequent reduction in the players amortised value were aiding the clubs profits . the practise isn’t new nor is it a loop hole it’s quite simply something that has been commonplace for many a year

 

[I am Irrefutable]

Just came across this.......very funny and probably close to the truth imho.

https://eplgazette.wordpress.com/20...-season-as-united-struggle-to-make-ends-meet/

 

[RandomJ]

Wait who is going to pay for UEFA's christmas do now that they can't fine us every year?