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City have the best owners in world football, end off
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City have the best owners in world football, end off
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Like a more benign of what’s going on at the bbc then?
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Whilst the UK media has some of the biggest sycophants and cheap whores on call.....................
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Can you imagine if football operated in that way?
Judging from our recent history, I think it does!
Still have to adhere to UEFA's spending controls so effectively the cost cap is already in place for the more successful clubs involved in European football, think next season it's 80% of turnover can be spent on wages, transfers (amortised) and operating costs.
Charmless = Arab
Since I started supporting City there have been half a dozen owners. I have had no say in any of them, so why should I “accept” anything about them?
Oh, I see, it proves I am a rat. Thank you Sayed, I shall try to do better in my choice of owners.
PS. The Mail is owned by a fascist family that supported Hitler in the 30s.
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For me these are the three standout comments in Martin's superb article.Fantastic article by Martin Samuel in the Times.
He gets it.
The sky won’t fall in even if Manchester City win their court case
The sky won’t fall in even if Manchester City win their court case
The Premier League’s rules were always going to be challenged by one of the clubs they were designed to stop – but whatever the outcome football will continuewww.thetimes.co.uk
"What changed? Well, for a start, burden of proof. It moved from the league having to demonstrate a related party had artificially inflated a sponsorship deal, to a club having to prove it had not. And if it couldn’t, charges would follow on the grounds that “all reasonable care” had not been used to avoid this. So not just a block on the deal, but charges."
"When FFP was initially discussed it was to address debt, which would have hugely affected Manchester United under the Glazers. Then it pivoted, so the bogeyman became owner investment and putting money into football became a bigger crime than taking it out."
"Remember, it’s only dirty oil money when it’s buying players for City. Not when it’s sponsoring Arsenal’s stadium, or is the longest-running commercial partnership at Old Trafford."
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I came across another article on our earlier 2021 arbitration case:
QC arbitrators in Man City case were not “beholden” to Premier League
11 August 2021
Posted by Nick Hilborne
Manchester City: Claim dismissed
The High Court has rejected a claim by Manchester City football club that there was apparent bias on the part of three QCs sitting on a Premier League arbitration panel.
Mrs Justice Moulder said the arbitrators were not “beholden” to the Premier League simply because they were dependent on it for appointment and reappointment.
The dispute in Manchester City Football Club v the Football Association Premier League [2021] EWHC 628 (Comm) began when the Premier League wrote to the club in December 2018 requesting information and documents relating to a number of potential rule breaches, which followed a hack of emails published in Germany.
The Premier League started arbitration proceedings in October 2019 over the club’s failure to comply with the request.
It appointed Daniel Alexander QC from its arbitration panel, the club appointed John Machell QC also from the panel, and the two arbitrators appointed Philip Havers QC as chairman.
The arbitrators ruled in the summer of 2020 that Manchester City should supply the information and documents.
The club applied for an order under section 67 of the Arbitration Act 1996 on the basis that the arbitral tribunal was wrong to conclude that it had jurisdiction to hear the case. This application was rejected by Moulder J.
The club also sought an order under section 68 on the basis that there was apparent bias on the part of the tribunal and under section 24 removing the tribunal members.
Manchester City, which instructed Lord Pannick QC, argued that there was no written policy or selection criteria for the appointment process, which was informal and “based on word of mouth and personal connections”.
It said this breached the “principle of independence”.
But Moulder J said this was only material if there was “a real possibility of a lack of independence” on the part of the tribunal.
Manchester City “would have been aware” that these were senior commercial QC subject to professional obligations, she said.
“Accordingly in assessing whether an informed observer should give weight to the impact on the independence of the arbitrators of any perceived shortcomings in the process of appointment to the panel, an observer would consider the professional reputation and experience of the arbitrators in question and in my view would give weight to that factor in the circumstances of this case…
“In my view the club have not shown that notwithstanding the process adopted, there was a real possibility that the impartiality of these arbitrators has been compromised.”
The club also said members of the panel were appointed for only three years, putting them in a “subordinate position” and creating a “justifiable doubt” as to their impartiality.
The Premier League responded by arguing that the QCs were “very experienced practitioners and arbitrators with an impeccable reputation” and it was well established that “an apparent bias challenge against such experienced arbitrators is not one that is easy to establish”.
The Premier League said the argument that the silks might find for the Premier League “against the merits” presupposed that the value of being on the panel was “consciously or unconsciously perceived by them to be worth the candle of breaching professional obligations as lawyers and of risking one’s reputation and practice”.
Moulder J rejected the club’s argument that, on the facts of the case, the fair minded and informed observer would conclude that the methods of appointment and reappointment to the panel made the QCs “beholden” to the Premier League and so there was a real possibility of bias.
The judge said that, even if panel members were dependent for their appointment and reappointment on the Premier League board, it did not follow that this led to “a real possibility” of bias.
Moulder J also held that Manchester City had waived its right to object to the appointment process for arbitrators by signing up to the Premier League rules and approving them every year as a shareholder.
QC arbitrators in Man City case were not “beholden” to Premier League
The High Court has rejected a claim by Manchester City football club that there was apparent bias on the part of three QCs sitting on a Premier League arbitration panel.www.legalfutures.co.uk
I agree with the reader's comment below this article:
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August 11, 2021 at 4:54 pm
Would it be better were the two disputing persons, the League and the Club in the instant case, each to choose their own arbitrator, preferably not from any any prescribed list? The two could then agree a third arbitrator (or possibly an Umpire); a truly neutral person, such as the President of the Chartered Institute of Arbitrators, might appoint the third if agreement fails. This case demonstrates why laymen think Judges and QCs are a cosy club. The Judges have the prospect of lucrative League arbitration in retirement.
I always find the legal profession's unshakeable faith In it's own moral rectitude quite touching.