City launch legal action against the Premier League | City win APT case (pg901)

[Wardley Blue]

The premier have decided that they don’t need to wait.

More fool them.

 

[bluemanchester]

That was to do with UEFA. I think it was because UEFA changed the FFP rules right at the last minute which was the difference between us possibly passing and definitely failing.

It most likely was after UEFA fined us. Though I saw it as a warning that he nor City would accept any rules that were obviously set up to hamper the progress he and the owner had mapped out for City, from a near bankrupt club, to now one of the highest earners, debt free and profitable clubs in world football. The cartel chose to ignore the warning as they think they have the power to ruin any club. The gloves are now off and there can only be one winner, whoever that is, there will be no draw.

 

[StillBluessinceHydeRoad]

This is what confuses me sometimes.

Aren't we often confusing APT rules with PSR rules? Yes, the tribunal made it clear that APT rules are a part of the PSR rules, but their unlawful judgment related only to APT. They came to no conclusion that PSR was unlawful. Only because they weren't asked the question, I suppose. It's pretty clear that if the APT rules were unlawful for the treatment of shareholder loans, then the PSR rules would also, if ever challenged, be unlawful for the same reason.

What the club and the PL, and the tribunal again at some point, is arguing about is only what happens with the APT rules?

A thought had occurred to me that, if the club gets the supplementary judgment it wants on the question of whether the APT rules are null and void or not, then they have a huge negotiating advantage as any challenge of PSR will come to the same conclusion and that is a box Pandora Masters doesn't want opening.

This may explain the aggressive reaction of the PL to City's letter to the other PL clubs, describing City's assertions as "baseless" and our "threats of further legal action" as "meritless". This seems strange in view of the outcome of our recent legal action. We might have been tempted to see this as emanating from the PL's lawyers if we weren't aware of the PL's penchant for ignoring the advice of its own (very expensive) lawyers and we don't know if the full findings of the IC are known to the PL. I suspect they are concerned about that detailed judgement and how explosive it might be. They may have other concerns - that a damning report might lead to an IR with far wider powers, a totally vindicated City, and a queue of rats to try and leave the sinking ship. The PL could be trying one last tour de force to try and save its bacon.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Should have been a lawyer rather than a Pilot.

You might be surprised how much talking goes on up there! 8-16 hrs, no movies, and only so much you can eat!! ;-)

 

[give it to gordon]

It most likely was after UEFA fined us. Though I saw it as a warning that he nor City would accept any rules that were obviously set up to hamper the progress he and the owner had mapped out for City, from a near bankrupt club, to now one of the highest earners, debt free and profitable clubs in world football. The cartel chose to ignore the warning as they think they have the power to ruin any club. The gloves are now off and there can only be one winner, whoever that is, there will be no draw.

Imagine in any other walk of life a billionaire buys a rundown shop in a rundown area of town.
10 years later he has turned his rundown shop into the biggest and best shopping empire in the world. You enlarge your shop making it the best around.
He has spent millions in helping with the rundown area and made it fashionable.
Help provide jobs and helps support the local community.
He probably would be knighted !

BUT in football this is all wrong football is about debt, taking money out of the game, not investing in your statium. Football doesn't competition on our off the field it likes it's status quo. So these 'bent' owners bring in illegal rules to try and stop our roll model. These 'bent' owners employ the shitty press/media to do their dirty work.
These 'bent owners than promise the 'smaller' clubs to throw away their ambitions and sell their fans down the river with promises from these 'bent' American owners of more income.

I can't understand the silence from Newcastle. Possibly are the riches club yet seem to be doing nothing to fight against these illegal rules to stop them. I really don't understand Newcastle stance on this.
Unless Newcastle new owner is happy to be an also ran and take the money out of football.

 

[johnny crossan]

This may explain the aggressive reaction of the PL to City's letter to the other PL clubs, describing City's assertions as "baseless" and our "threats of further legal action" as "meritless". This seems strange in view of the outcome of our recent legal action. We might have been tempted to see this as emanating from the PL's lawyers if we weren't aware of the PL's penchant for ignoring the advice of its own (very expensive) lawyers and we don't know if the full findings of the IC are known to the PL. I suspect they are concerned about that detailed judgement and how explosive it might be. They may have other concerns - that a damning report might lead to an IR with far wider powers, a totally vindicated City, and a queue of rats to try and leave the sinking ship. The PL could be trying one last tour de force to try and save its bacon.

Name calling like this in correspondence usually means its prime purpose is PR -

• "rejects in the strongest possible terms the repeated and baseless assertions"
• "does not provide a credible basis to impugn..."
• "such threats are meritless, and advanced without any attempt to articulate a credible ground on which MCFC could seek to restrain the consultation process".
• “a tendentious and inaccurate interpretation” of the minutes of a call held with clubs last month.

Banned Roan couldn't resist quoting a few words of scouse hilarity from the dippers aged shill - comedy gold:

Rick Parry expressed concern at “a whole raft of competition law cases which are impacting on the way that we run the game"."To be looking over our shoulder all of the time with challenges from clubs if they don't like rules… the game will grind to a halt unless we find a solution for that” he told BBC Sport. "I have no problem with us having to be more professional. But it's the willingness of clubs at the drop of a hat to challenge the whole system.”"You have to question how long you can function effectively while that mentality exists, and we have to find a solution to that.”

Quite right Rick, don't want anybody noticing the cartel passing a shedload of bent rules to keep your redshirt employers in the gravy for the past decade do we?

 

[give it to gordon]

Name calling like this in correspondence usually means its prime purpose is PR -

• "rejects in the strongest possible terms the repeated and baseless assertions"
• "does not provide a credible basis to impugn..."
• "such threats are meritless, and advanced without any attempt to articulate a credible ground on which MCFC could seek to restrain the consultation process".
• “a tendentious and inaccurate interpretation” of the minutes of a call held with clubs last month.

Banned Roan couldn't resist quoting a few words of scouse hilarity from the dippers aged shill - comedy gold:

Rick Parry expressed concern at “a whole raft of competition law cases which are impacting on the way that we run the game"."To be looking over our shoulder all of the time with challenges from clubs if they don't like rules… the game will grind to a halt unless we find a solution for that” he told BBC Sport. "I have no problem with us having to be more professional. But it's the willingness of clubs at the drop of a hat to challenge the whole system.”"You have to question how long you can function effectively while that mentality exists, and we have to find a solution to that.”

Quite right Rick, don't want anybody noticing the cartel passing a shedload of bent rules to keep your redshirt employers in the gravy for the past decade do we?

City only problem is with illegal rules . Something most press/media don't seem to understand and are happy that football is run under illegal rules ! Bizarre

 

[MCFCTrick]

You might be surprised how much talking goes on up there! 8-16 hrs, no movies, and only so much you can eat!! ;-)

Don't forget the drinking sessions ;-)

 

[Newman Noggs]

City only problem is with illegal rules . Something most press/media don't seem to understand and are happy that football is run under illegal rules ! Bizarre

They understand it all right. They are in the cartel's pockets.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Don't forget the drinking sessions ;-)

Shhhhhhh!