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[hihosilva]

Man City FFP: APT verdict ‘expected soon’ with Guardiola’s side unhappy with ‘unfair’ PL treatment​

Lewis Oldham

Pep Guardiola's Man City are accused of breaching FFP rules.
A verdict in Manchester City’s APT case is reportedly ‘expected soon’, with the club claiming they have been treated ‘unfairly’ by the Premier League.
At the start of 2023, it emerged that Man City have been charged by the Premier League after being accused of breaching over 100 of their Financial Fair Play rules. This followed a four-year probe into their conduct between 2009 and 2018.

This case has already dragged on too long, but it recently became even more complicated as Man City launched an unprecedented legal battle against the Premier League as they campaign for the removal of Associated Party Transaction (APT) rules.
City’s APT case was recently heard, while their FFP hearing is expected to start later this year.
If they win the first case, it would make a large portion of their FFP charges redundant and would reduce the severity of their potential sanctions. But if it goes against them, their possible punishments include a huge fine, points deduction, transfer ban or expulsion from the Premier League.
Earlier this month, it was claimed by ex-Everton and Aston Villa CEO Keith Wyness that a ‘deal could be struck’ between Man City and the Premier League to end their conflict, but it remains to be seen if this will be the case.
READ: Man City stars reassigned after FFP ‘expulsion’: Foden to Chelsea as CB gets ‘dream’ Liverpool move

According to a report from The Guardian, Man City are not on good terms with the Premier League as they have argued that the ‘analysis of their commercial income is unfair’ because the ‘company scrutinising their deals works for rival clubs’. The report explains.

‘Manchester City are claiming the Premier League has treated them unfairly in assessing their commercial income by relying on the analysis of a data company that also works for their rivals.
‘The Guardian has learned the league’s scrutiny of the fair market value of City’s deals was undertaken by Nielsen Sports, a global data and media valuation firm that has contracts with several top-flight clubs.
‘City are understood to have raised the Premier League’s use of Nielsen in their legal battle over associated party transactions (APT), in which clubs strike sponsorship or revenue deals with businesses linked to their owners, which was heard in private last month. A decision on the landmark case is expected soon, although it is unclear when it will be made public.’

 

[SilverFox2]

Man City FFP: APT verdict ‘expected soon’ with Guardiola’s side unhappy with ‘unfair’ PL treatment​

Lewis Oldham

Pep Guardiola's Man City are accused of breaching FFP rules.
A verdict in Manchester City’s APT case is reportedly ‘expected soon’, with the club claiming they have been treated ‘unfairly’ by the Premier League.
At the start of 2023, it emerged that Man City have been charged by the Premier League after being accused of breaching over 100 of their Financial Fair Play rules. This followed a four-year probe into their conduct between 2009 and 2018.

This case has already dragged on too long, but it recently became even more complicated as Man City launched an unprecedented legal battle against the Premier League as they campaign for the removal of Associated Party Transaction (APT) rules.
City’s APT case was recently heard, while their FFP hearing is expected to start later this year.
If they win the first case, it would make a large portion of their FFP charges redundant and would reduce the severity of their potential sanctions. But if it goes against them, their possible punishments include a huge fine, points deduction, transfer ban or expulsion from the Premier League.
Earlier this month, it was claimed by ex-Everton and Aston Villa CEO Keith Wyness that a ‘deal could be struck’ between Man City and the Premier League to end their conflict, but it remains to be seen if this will be the case.
READ: Man City stars reassigned after FFP ‘expulsion’: Foden to Chelsea as CB gets ‘dream’ Liverpool move

According to a report from The Guardian, Man City are not on good terms with the Premier League as they have argued that the ‘analysis of their commercial income is unfair’ because the ‘company scrutinising their deals works for rival clubs’. The report explains.

Would this be classified as a new leak?
If it was part of the original one leaked by Arsenal maybe understandable but it seems to relate to the second phase dependant on winning the first.

 

[blueparrot]

Would this be classified as a new leak?
If it was part of the original one leaked by Arsenal maybe understandable but it seems to relate to the second phase dependant on winning the first.

Think it's just a guess, the fact they are linking the 2 cases tells me they don't know what they're talking about.

"City’s APT case was recently heard, while their FFP hearing is expected to start later this year.
If they win the first case, it would make a large portion of their FFP charges redundant and would reduce the severity of their potential sanctions. But if it goes against them, their possible punishments include a huge fine, points deduction, transfer ban or expulsion from the Premier League."

 

[jaiguruKun]

it seems to relate to the second phase dependant on winning the first.

That aspect is bullshit based purely on speculation and the Guardian article upon which it is based does not say anything new whatsoever.

 

[mancboy]

any article that quotes keith wyness can be disregarded out of hand as complete gibberish

 

[Prophet of Doom]

Would this be classified as a new leak?
If it was part of the original one leaked by Arsenal maybe understandable but it seems to relate to the second phase dependant on winning the first.

This is not a new leak. It’s a story by a junior journalist purely taking reports from the Guardian and that website that seems to give that clown Wyness a platform.

The source, the Guardian story yesterday bizarrely seemed to think it was breaking news about City disputing the company used to value sponsorships ??? Which was bizarre as this was clearly noted in the original Times exclusive weeks ago.

The other bits are simply made up.

 

[SilverFox2]

Think it's just a guess, the fact they are linking the 2 cases tells me they don't know what they're talking about.

"City’s APT case was recently heard, while their FFP hearing is expected to start later this year.
If they win the first case, it would make a large portion of their FFP charges redundant and would reduce the severity of their potential sanctions. But if it goes against them, their possible punishments include a huge fine, points deduction, transfer ban or expulsion from the Premier League."

Sorry, I'm not referring to the FFP case I mean the follow up claim for damages which I understand is dependant on winning the current case.

The reference to City sustaining losses because sponsorship reduced or disallowed seems to be part of our claim for damages. Maybe it is mentioned in the Arsenal document leak after all?

 

[spacecadet]

Football365. Honestly don't know their middle toe from their dick.

 

[SilverFox2]

This is not a new leak. It’s a story by a junior journalist purely taking reports from the Guardian and that website that seems to give that clown Wyness a platform.

The source, the Guardian story yesterday bizarrely seemed to think it was breaking news about City disputing the company used to value sponsorships ??? Which was bizarre as this was clearly noted in the original Times exclusive weeks ago.

The other bits are simply made up.

Thanks for clarification.
Did the Times detail all the document or was it just a select few tasters?

 

[Kinkybyname]

 

[Keeganagainstunited]

Looks a prat

 

[brazilians hurt]

any article that quotes keith wyness can be disregarded out of hand as complete gibberish

As far as I’m can tell he has not involved with a premier league club since 2018 when he was suspended by Villa
As such I very much doubt he has any genuine insight into any current football matters & as he is not a stakeholder in Football 365/Planet Sport (Holdings) Ltd I can only conclude he is cheap to quote.

 

[Ghandi's Flip Flops]

Decades ago I did data modelling for Unilever, they used Nielsen sales data extensively, After months of the data not making any sense (selling more to public than shipping wholesale) It emerged Nielsen were using the same sales data for multiple clients and just switching the brands round based on who the customer was as "that's what they thought the marketing folks wanted to see". of course they may have cleaned up their act over the decades but I very much doubt it and your last line is as prevalent as ever.

Had similar experience about 10-15 years back. Was working on designing a proposed expansion for their Port Sunlight site, mainly to support their Dove & Dove for Men product range. Proposal seemed to be about 50% oversized, because it was based on Nielsen marketing data. All the site production managers were saying the only time they got anywhere near the Nielsen sales figures were when they had 3 for 2 or bogof promotions.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

any article that quotes keith wyness can be disregarded out of hand as complete gibberish

Wyness has no credibility at all. Check his background on Google.

 

[give it to gordon]

Can't we just go back to the old days. Someone buys/owners a club and can invest as much as he wants. If fans don't like it they demonstrate.

How many clubs went bust under that system ?

It seems more clubs are at risk because of these rules that are meant to protect them.

 

[spinney]

Can't we just go back to the old days. Someone buys/owners a club and can invest as much as he wants. If fans don't like it they demonstrate.

How many clubs went bust under that system ?

It seems more clubs are at risk because of these rules that are meant to protect them.

I wonder how City would gave got on under good old PJ Swales with the present day rules

 

[Stoned Rose]

Think it's just a guess, the fact they are linking the 2 cases tells me they don't know what they're talking about.

"City’s APT case was recently heard, while their FFP hearing is expected to start later this year.
If they win the first case, it would make a large portion of their FFP charges redundant and would reduce the severity of their potential sanctions. But if it goes against them, their possible punishments include a huge fine, points deduction, transfer ban or expulsion from the Premier League."

Doesn’t sound accurate to me.

If we are successful on the APT issue it shouldn’t have any baring on the bigger case.

 

[Stoned Rose]

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Forgot to mention “Mummy still cuts the crusts off my sandwiches”.

 

[blueparrot]

Doesn’t sound accurate to me.

If we are successful on the APT issue it shouldn’t have any baring on the bigger case.

Doesn't have any baring.

 

[MCFCTrick]

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Biffo by name ....