City launch legal action against the Premier League | Club & PL reach settlement | Proceedings dropped (p1147)

[jrb]

It’s been very quiet in work this week bar the odd shout of 115 cheats!

It’s sinking in to the Rags at work that City are not to be messed about with.

 

[Chris in London]

You are saying the club can insist there were no floors in that elevator?

Not a great effort. You need to lift your game

 

[slbsn]

Would we have challenged the rules if we had known the Etihad contract would pass? I don’t think so.

We likely gained something extra, but after getting the Etihad deal approved—and with the Puma deal on the books—we’re nearly immune to APT/FMV scrutiny.

In 2014, as is the case now, the governing body’s independent marketing expert concluded that several of our Abu Dhabi sponsorship contracts were “significantly overvalued,” resulting in two of them being frozen.

Speaking of 2014, I think these Simon Cliff quotes about City’s strategy toward UEFA say something about how City has acted toward the Premier League in the APT case:

“Apply as much pressure as possible, while always giving UEFA a way out.”
“The football association now has the opportunity to avoid the destruction of its rules and organization.”

Pure speculation without having read the documents (or most of what I wrote above). Football and the rules will go on beyond 2035.

 

[Stoned Rose]

Nobody knows

Nobody on here knows.

 

[Stoned Rose]

You are saying the club can insist there were no floors in that elevator?

Sort these daft posts out or I’ll escalate it to a mod.

 

[Stoned Rose]

When you look at the bigger picture, the APT/FMV rules were clearly designed to control the scale of our sponsorship deals. The people behind these regulations are the same competitors who had already tried to block or reduce our sponsorships through UEFA’s RP rules. The deal they have objected to the most – and publicly criticized most heavily – is our agreement with Etihad. It was therefore fairly obvious from the start that a new £1.7B deal would encounter obstacles, which is why we examined the gaps in the rules and how we might challenge them in order to ultimately get the deal approved. When they later moved to tighten the rules, that was, as you pointed out, most likely the trigger.

For us, the main objective has always been to secure full approval of the new Etihad deal, while for our opponents, it has consistently been about blocking or reducing that same deal. After we succeeded in finalizing the agreement and pushing through adjustments to the regulations, there was no longer any need to abolish the rules; instead, they now serve as a preventive measure. So for me, the settlement is a win for City.

It is rather ironic that both the APT and the 115 case are essentially domestic reruns of UEFA vs. City in 2014 and 2020

Last paragraph is not the case mate.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

Sort these daft posts out or I’ll escalate it to a mod.

Some of these poster really know how to push the buttons

 

[Keith Moon]

Pure speculation without having read the documents (or most of what I wrote above). Football and the rules will go on beyond 2035.

Pure speculation. Still, it’s not hard to see why the rules were introduced—whom they’re meant to protect and against whom. And given how we’ve historically handled this kind of challenge, it’s not hard to see why we’re acting as we are. And yes, this won’t be the last time we have to fight the power, that’s for sure. One thing: do the documents say when the FAB and the hotel deals were rejected?

 

[slbsn]

Pure speculation. Still, it’s not hard to see why the rules were introduced—whom they’re meant to protect and against whom. And given how we’ve historically handled this kind of challenge, it’s not hard to see why we’re acting as we are. And yes, this won’t be the last time we have to fight the power, that’s for sure. One thing: do the documents say when the FAB and the hotel deals were rejected?

Yes. And the hotel deal was approved.

 

[TheGhost]

This thread should be closed.

 

[halfcenturyup]

This thread should be closed.

Give it a few more days and more stories will leak.

Is my guess.

 

[Manchester33]

Example 2 - After the final City not calling out UEFA failing in their duty of care to thousands of City fans. A stony silence that still continues to this day.

Yep - so we have precedent for how City react here. I wouldn’t expect our strategy to differ on APT or 115, regardless of the outcome.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

This thread should be closed.

You could just not read it?

 

[BringBackSwales]

I think if you take my responses as a whole they are reasonable and polite. But everyone entitled to their own view.

My honest view is that I find your responses very often condescending and dismissive of other people on here. That’s my view and appreciate it’s not yours. I also appreciate that you’re extremely intelligent and well read in these complicated financial/legal issues but maybe worth being aware that most of us in here are not as intelligent as you. That’s my view, and hopefully reasonably reasonable and polite

 

[oakiecokie]

Not a great effort. You need to lift your game

And I`ll raise you.

 

[slbsn]

My honest view is that I find your responses very often condescending and dismissive of other people on here. That’s my view and appreciate it’s not yours. I also appreciate that you’re extremely intelligent and well read in these complicated financial/legal issues but maybe worth being aware that most of us in here are not as intelligent as you. That’s my view, and hopefully reasonably reasonable and polite

Thanks for the comments and feedback.

 

[Keith Moon]

Yes. And the hotel deal was approved.

Found the documents—interesting read. The trigger was likely the FAB/EP problems in summer 2023; City must have realised at that point they’d struggle to get the Etihad deal approved.

 

[slbsn]

Found the documents—interesting read. The trigger was likely the FAB/EP problems in summer 2023; City must have realised at that point they’d struggle to get the Etihad deal approved.

Quick reader. Impressive.

 

[TinFoilHat]

Part of me wants Qatar to buy spurs.

Middle Eastern leverage might prevent the yanks doing what they want in trying to create an NFL version of the PL without the fairness that any team could win the main prize.

 

[mike1923]

I think the next PL chief exec will have to pass a fit and proper independent test by the IFR. Whoever they are, they should probably support someone like Yeovil Town FC (no offence). They will not be another cartel stooge.

We will just end up with a situation like the refs where we have a pool of 50 blokes who we are expected to believe miraculously don’t support any premier league clubs