City or Aston Villa vs Reading - FA Cup 6th Round

Re: Reading it is...

McGregor1874 said:
Holtenderinthesky said:
No I don't have an agenda, just sick of my club being belittled by the nouveu riche. When we have done well, it's all about us over achieving, despite our history being far, far better than all but Man Ure's, Liverpool's and possibly Arsenal's. Now that City have money and can buy the league, (well, clearly not yet but...) they are in the top 4. How is that not City "over achieving"? But yet when we have finished 6th 3 years on the trot it's cos we apparently over achieved? Do you see my point?

It's just annoying that's all.
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Hold on HolteEnder!

Villa created the game and gave league football to the world. Villa were the most successful club of the nineteenth century and had more major trophies in the trophy cabinet than any other English club for an unbroken spell of seventy-eight years. Three quarters of the twentieth century.

Liverpool equalled Villa's trophy count in 1979, Man Utd and Arsenal overtook Villa in the Premier league era. Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal are arrivistes when it comes to the traditions of English football. They ony became successful with the help of money and the media. Villa's history is far older, greater and influential than the clubs you mention.

If Man City and Chelsea one day have more trophies than anyone else will it mean they have greater histories? No. Winning cups does not equate to history alone. Doing things first, influencing and pioneering are just as important. Villa's history is the greatest in the game...even during our relative shite years we still managed to win cups, the league, the European Cup etc. Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd are new moneyed, media clubs that have bought success from the the 1930's (Arsenal), and 1950's/60's onwards (Man Utd, Liverpool). They owe their "success" to the rise of TV money as much as anything else.
They certainly haven't got greater histories than the creators of the game, Aston Villa F.C.. That any Villa fan should suggest they have is being modest to a fault. We're good sports at Villa, but sometimes we, as fans, are too modest for own good.
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You obviously don't know much about our history then.

Highest ever attendance in english football outside wembley.
The Revie plan influenced other sides.

Just to name a few.
 
Yeah Villa won a lot during the 19th century when the competition was quite low and the league was barely established but compare what you've won in the 20th and 21st centuries to City and there isn't much difference. When did Villa last win the Fa Cup?
 
Re: Reading it is...

WNRH said:
McGregor1874 said:
Hold on HolteEnder!

Villa created the game and gave league football to the world. Villa were the most successful club of the nineteenth century and had more major trophies in the trophy cabinet than any other English club for an unbroken spell of seventy-eight years. Three quarters of the twentieth century.

Liverpool equalled Villa's trophy count in 1979, Man Utd and Arsenal overtook Villa in the Premier league era. Liverpool, Man Utd and Arsenal are arrivistes when it comes to the traditions of English football. They ony became successful with the help of money and the media. Villa's history is far older, greater and influential than the clubs you mention.

If Man City and Chelsea one day have more trophies than anyone else will it mean they have greater histories? No. Winning cups does not equate to history alone. Doing things first, influencing and pioneering are just as important. Villa's history is the greatest in the game...even during our relative shite years we still managed to win cups, the league, the European Cup etc. Arsenal, Liverpool and Man Utd are new moneyed, media clubs that have bought success from the the 1930's (Arsenal), and 1950's/60's onwards (Man Utd, Liverpool). They owe their "success" to the rise of TV money as much as anything else.
They certainly haven't got greater histories than the creators of the game, Aston Villa F.C.. That any Villa fan should suggest they have is being modest to a fault. We're good sports at Villa, but sometimes we, as fans, are too modest for own good.
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You obviously don't know much about our history then.

Highest ever attendance in english football outside wembley.
The Revie plan influenced other sides.

Just to name a few.
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Not that great a counter-argument, to be brutally honest!

;-))
 
Mancini should make them all watch the '69 final and go out and do it for Nelly (and play all games in black and red stripes) and for once don't f*ck things up
 
eddie c 123 said:
lee-mcfc said:
if we dont win tomorrow something is very wrong
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Agreed, I am 50/50 with Mancini but I think tomorrow may make up my mind. I just wish we took the league cup seriously.
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Hope you two stay away tonight - we need proper fans cheering the team on hopefully to victory. You're probably founder members of the "can't be arsed" brigade who rarely attend but want everyone sacked if we don't win a game of football. Clueless.
 
We had the tallest floodlights as well.

I am hoping for a City vs Orient final LOL.

A 37 year old city fan here. Seen us fail too many times. West Ham in the Qtrs a few years back was awful.

I am in 110 tonight. Will be behind the team. Def not counting mu chickens.

However if we get past Villa, I do see a Wembely trip. I have only been once so I wasn't even sure if I spelt it right.

Sweetest feeling in my City life would be stuffing United in the Final.
Would be a blood bath as well.
 
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