City v Celtic post match

[Neville Kneville]

I didnt notice him much in the first half though he was on the opposite side of the pitch to me. Thought he came into it more second half. Reckon theres a very good player in there

I'm going to call it officially as World Star.

Let's see if I'm right.

 

[Magicpole]

Bigot mate why am I a bigot.

For pointing out the lovely songs YOUR clubs sing about.

Also point out its only Celtic tgat boo the minutes silence


It's only Celtic that put banners uo about poppies etc etc..


What's bigoted about me pointing this out ?..

As I said I have a soft spot for a Glasgow club , but not tge one you thought not the other bigot club Rangers..

Classing a whole group for the actions of some is not a reasonable or fair position.

We will just have to agree to differ.

It's taking up too much space. Head and in here than it deserves.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I attended the U19 game against Schalke in 2015 when Sane was by far the best player on the pitch.
I can't remember if Roberts played, but I definitely saw him last season in the same competition.at Monchengladbach.

Sane seems to be physically more imposing and undoubtedly has blistering pace from a standing start. His progress will be a benchmark for Pep's overall success.
Roberts will need an extra trick because currently he resembles a young Adam Johnson at Boro. Obviously it's in our interests for him to do well at Celtic, but he needs to be stronger, both on and off the ball, to get more involved.

 

[Neville Kneville]

I attended the U19 game against Schalke in 2015 when Sane was by far the best player on the pitch.
I can't remember if Roberts played, but I definitely saw him last season in the same competition.at Monchengladbach.

Sane seems to be physically more imposing and undoubtedly has blistering pace from a standing start. His progress will be a benchmark for Pep's overall success.
Roberts will need an extra trick because currently he resembles a young Adam Johnson at Boro. Obviously it's in our interests for him to do well at Celtic, but he needs to be stronger, both on and off the ball, to get more involved.

He was the best player that day v City's U19s & was rewarded by being promoted to the first team, as he rightly should be, scored v Real Madrid, learned how to play at a higher level & has never looked back since.

Some of City's kids, who were performing just as well or better than that, at times that season, were stil in the reserves two years later & are now in limbo on loan, probably never to fulfil their potential.

But some we have coming through now, are potential stars & we have a proper manager who cares, plus already, Sterling, Sane, Baby Jesus, Kelechi, Zinchenko is playing a blinder at PSV, Unal scoring for fun, loads more at U15, 16 etc level, please Pep just stay on & build us a team out of this lot.

If I knew Pep would be here in 5 years to see that through, I'd trade not winning a trophy for 3.

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

He was the best player that day v City's U19s & was rewarded by being promoted to the first team, as he rightly should be, scored v Real Madrid, learned how to play at a higher level & has never looked back since.

Some of City's kids, who were performing just as well or better than that, at times that season, were stil in the reserves two years later & are now in limbo on loan, probably never to fulfil their potential.

But some we have coming through now, are potential stars & we have a proper manager who cares, plus already, Sterling, Sane, Baby Jesus, Kelechi, Zinchenko is playing a blinder at PSV, Unal scoring for fun, loads more at U15, 16 etc level, please Pep just stay on & build us a team out of this lot.

If I knew Pep would be here in 5 years to see that through, I'd trade not winning a trophy for 3.

I agree with most of that, but I'm still not convinced about the reasoning behind the purchase,and then immediate farming of Zinchenko, Unal Mooy etc
Were they bought as long term additions, or part of a clever add-on strategy to fund the annual stellar signing?

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

I rewatched the whole game, mainly focussing on Roberts, Sane, Tosin, Maffeo & Kelechi. Oh & Zabba.

Sane was quite often in a conventional fullback position, in a 4, even though it was technically a back 3, with Maffeo forward doing the pressing. His discipline was fantastic. Then he was making 60 yard runs, at pace, & passing he fullback at the other end. Nolito & Gundogan often didn't have the radar to spot him. Silva/DeBruyne would.

Then he was getting back, not instantly, but in perfectly good time. 1v1 Roberts couldn't get a sniff out of him. He was the most dangerous attacking player & a decent defender, in the same game. I'm convinced now that Pep could make a fullback out of him if he wanted (not that he will).

Incredible people in the media saw Roberts' two moments dribbling past Clichy of evidence he's closer to the level required than Sane.

Ok, I bow too your analytical skills. I have to look for these sort of things more in future.

~How was Tosin, cos I saw a couple of times he let the attacker run away from him and recieve the ball but others are telling me he was actually quite good

 

[Neville Kneville]

I agree with most of that, but I'm still not convinced about the reasoning behind the purchase,and then immediate farming of Zinchenko, Unal Mooy etc
Were they bought as long term additions, or part of a clever add-on strategy to fund the annual stellar signing?

I think some, such as Mooy & some of the African lads, etc are just wild cards in the hope they blossom into something, but otherwise we may make a small profit or use them for our other clubs & as bargaining chips.

I think the kids like Zinchenko, Unal, Moreno are in the 'potential superstar' bracket so we just sign them & hope one lives up to it. If they don't, we haven't lost much.

All 3 of those have got real, jaw dropping ability imo. Just have to see if they have the rest to go with it.

 

[Neville Kneville]

Ok, I bow too your analytical skills. I have to look for these sort of things more in future.

~How was Tosin, cos I saw a couple of times he let the attacker run away from him and recieve the ball but others are telling me he was actually quite good

I would agree with that. 'Quite good' but not yet upto speed in thought imo. Tbh the game passed him by a bit I thought but it's hardly surprising. Everything will be happening around him twice as fast as he normally sees, in front of 50k people.

It's great that he has had a taste of it in a proper game. Now he has an idea what he needs to do & what to work on. We'll see how quickly he 'gets it'.

 

[Neville Kneville]

EDIT Unal would have scored v Chelsea.

Might have done fuck all else in build up, but he would have scored.

 

[Cityfan]

Bigot mate why am I a bigot.

For pointing out the lovely songs YOUR clubs sing about.

Also point out its only Celtic tgat boo the minutes silence


It's only Celtic that put banners uo about poppies etc etc..


What's bigoted about me pointing this out ?..

As I said I have a soft spot for a Glasgow club , but not tge one you thought not the other bigot club Rangers..

Oh boo hoo a nasty person doesn't like a flower, therefore I will label an entire support as bigots.
This is pathetic whining victimhood.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

Maybe I misread the article but It seems the CSA are blaming the official observer, who comes from Antrim,
for some kind of conspiracy to stitch up Celtic. Plus a few more digs about the 'Emtihad' etc, etc. They really
seem to have taken losing out to 'ickle City very badly.

http://www.thecsa.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1911&p=6100#p6100

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

Maybe I misread the article but It seems the CSA are blaming the official observer, who comes from Antrim,
for some kind of conspiracy to stitch up Celtic. Plus a few more digs about the 'Emtihad' etc, etc. They really
seem to have taken losing out to 'ickle City very badly.

http://www.thecsa.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=1911&p=6100#p6100

To be fair, once you disregard the tedious "Emtihad" reference, I thought it was reasonably well balanced.

Most of the travelling support was well behaved, and I've seen too many City idiots abroad (Santander being particularly embarrassing) to get too high and mighty.
However, amongst some other offences, Celtic have been charged for an incident in the home end. The author is merely implying that it takes two to tango.

The only irritation is the reference to the UEFA Observer being a Linfield supporter which means fuck all to the majority of City fans, but presumably adds fuel to the anti-Celtic conspiracy fire.

 

[intheheatoflisbon]

As a Celtic fan I enjoyed the 2 games against man city and thought 2 draws were fair results.I wasn't at the game on Tuesday so can't really comment on what went on between the fans.It seems strange that if there was fighting between the fans then surely both clubs would get reported and maybe man city being the home club and being responsible for ticketing and security would get into trouble with uefa more.Again Celtic are getting done for some idiotic fans setting off flares but at Celtic park I've never seen as many flares as the BMG fans had and they weren't reported so that's another contentious point.The fact that the observer is a linfield fan would be similar to a Palestinian being a "neutral" observer in a game involving an Israeli team.I certainly don't agree with Irish rebel songs getting sung by Celtic fans but they always have been and obviously they are sung more by the hardcore travelling fans especially in England with a lot of fans pretty drunk.Not all republicans are Celtic fans and not all Celtic fans are republican.People in England probably don't realise how many Protestant Celtic fans we have and thankfully we've always signed Protestant players from day 1.For Celtic we've come on a great deal since last season and when Brendan Rodgers brings in a few more players we will be even better next season.I would like to keep patrick Roberts but he wouldn't have been playing if Sinclair had been fit so I don't think he will become a regular with you.
Obviously on a man city forum there will be a certain bias towards man city and most man city fans on here are sound,however you do get the usual arragance from some about Celtic being the standard of a mid table English championship team so just to remind you that the team who knocked out a top 10 English EPL side Southampton tonight was a team Celtic knocked out of the CL qualifiers scoring 5 against them at Celtic park.As for the comments about the Lisbon lions winning the European cup in 67 during a time it was easy to win the cup well it's not saying much or the standard of the old English division 1 at the time because only one English team won the European cup uo o '77 and in the late '60's man city had a wonderful team one of your best ever so your denigrating that team as well with your comments.

 

[Rochdale Blue]

I don't have problems with Celtic or decent supporters of any club, but please don't talk about arrogance when we have had a surfeit of condescension aimed at our club from balloons who then aim to deflect blame for their actions onto others. I'm sure there were City fans weren't exactly innocent but maybe you can tell me what the reaction would be to anyone wearing rival colours and winding up locals in Glasgow.

Anything Celtic or Rangers did years ago means as much to me as the trophies purchased by the rags or Liverpool. They and Celtic are shadows of what they once were and all the derision they receive now from rivals is nothing more than well earned payback.