City v Newcastle, Carling Cup - Post Match Thread

[baildon blue]

At least it saves us some money for going Wembley .
Thats the bright side .

 

[bluemoon32]

Comes to something when losing at home to Newcastle 2nds doesn't surprise me.
Very lazy side when we don't have the ball.

 

[80s Shorts]

Shocking, and pathetic, and its become all the more clear; we've plateaued as a team, hit a brick wall. This season we look like a spent force, an ageing team. We still have quality from the likes of Aguero and Silva, but on nights like that the cracks are there for all to see. We should have cashed in on Yaya in the summer, we could have got over 40 million for him. The likes of Ferguson and Mourinho had it right in moving on players at the right time. The sale of Mata and David Luiz looks like fantastic business now. We've done the total opposite. Why on earth is Sagna here? The guy is on one last paycheque. I look at pictures of him, with his glamourous girlfriend, shopping at Harvey Nicks, this isn't a guy with hunger, and burning desire, who's going to take the club forwards. Its the equivalent of QPR signing Ferdinand. Fernando again another poor buy. Mangala looks terrible, but he's only young. Dzeko is just embarrassing, another guy we should have moved on. We're floating along, we look miles away from the top teams in Europe, the proof is in the pudding by looking at the CL campaign. We seem to be straightjacketed in the way we play, and teams are now starting to suss us out.

This is about as far from the truth as the rest of your rant.

If you honestly think that we could have north of 40million for a 31 yr old you are deluded. Who was offering this money ? Nobody.

 

[Life in Blue]

I know the bluemoon rag snoopers are sniffing around but it has to be said, there is a serious problem brewing. I initially thought it was a system issue, after watching the last few matches I now have a feeling it has something to do with players unrest, I hope I'm wrong !

I agree - could it be Toure's attitude? Maybe it's the constant rotation, Kompany and Zaba rarely got a rest last season and I think the team suffers from the disruption.

Maybe they're pissed off with the same old tactics!

I remember thinking how bloody miserable Kun looked after collecting the match ball vs Spurs - not like him at all.

 

[SuperSilva]

Well not much left to say really as its all been said but at least with Vinny and Zabba back we will have some intensity back in the side although losing Silva for a period of 2 to 3 weeks is not something I'm looking forward to!! To many players are either playing well below par or don't seem to have the passion they once had for the shirt, of course we could beat UTD and everything will seem fine again but for me we seem to have lost a yard of pace and that is worrying

I am crying because we have not Silva for the derby...

 

[Anonymous]

City are back whoa whoa!

Genius! Was thinking the same myself. Very funny.
Shit happens!

I thought it was funny as well.

Somebody asked for him to be banned a few pages ago.

 

[urban genie]

Worst performance for a long while, the team looked like it was directionless at times and a bit nervy by the form they are showing. Getting a settled back four and maybe going for a 4-2-3-1 system and shore up what looking at the moment like a shaky backbone, hopefully we can sort this out and get ourselves going.

Not flapping I still believe we will stuff the rags & CSKA this week coming, and win a pot or 2 this season

 

[Big Dave Watson]

Exactly as fucking predicted.

Prepare for a shock on Sunday.

Oh, and don't expect us to be buying our way out of this. There will be no Barkley, reus or pogba coming here, guaranteed.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

First time in a year i've been to a mid-week game, I thought the fans and the turnout was very good.

Strangely enough, i'm not angry or disappointed in the performance. I think it's got to a stage where i've become accustomed to that this season. This whole one football philosophy though is showing. It very much started with Barcelona years ago, the idea of playing one system and simply bulldozing sides seems glorious, but unless you have world class players all over the park or players who have grown through the academy who have had such a playing style hammered into them, it's incredibly flawed. We don't have either of those. Even a current team like Bayern Munich can't afford to imploy such a structure, as they found out last year against Real Madrid. If the system doesn't change and this one philosophy continues, it will cost Pellegrini his job and it will also set us way back.

As for the first goal, looked to me like a Kolarov clanger. It struck me as a rather amateurish mistake, passing the ball to a midfielder with his back to the opposition and a simple "man on" was all that was needed. Of course, once again, the centre back who happens to just play on that side is going to be held responsible. Just like Lescott, K.Toure and Nastastic all did. Goals seem to be flying into the net on Kolarovs/Clichys side.

As for the selection, I think it tells us alot that we felt the need to play Silva, Nasri, Dzeko, Toure, Aguero etc. This is a game where youth products should be pushed through and they should be capable of handling a Newcastle reserves side. The youth development is failing badly at the club and we're at a stage where the manager doesn't trust anyone but the best 11 to do a job against such sides. It's not really his fault that he felt the need to start Silva, I think it sends alarm bells ringing though about us not being able to get the job done without key players. We really do need to push through the young ones, isn't that the whole point of what we're trying to do in future? Instead, Zuculini is currently sat on the bench in Valencia doing nothing. and if he isn't good enough, surely there's something going wrong somewhere.

But in the end, sacking Pellegrini would be borderline madness, a new manager would want new signings, new signings which we can not simply afford due to FFP restrictions. If he can get a new left-back and somehow throw out this flawed same system for every team we play, he'll have my full support. But right now he strikes me a yes man, very much similar to that of Roy Hodgson.

Can't help but feel the board are playing some form of role in all this, as if the entire structure is decided upon men in fancy suits sat in the stands. The last manager was undermined in the summer transfer market and then throughout the season, now we may possibly be on the verge of a situation where the current manager doesn't dare do anything in case of being undermined.
People can say "we had bad patches last year at Cardiff etc.", but it was different then, a new manager had just come in, this has more of a Mancini's final season feeling to it, thankfully without those fuckwits outside the City not being involved in a title run.

 

[SebastianBlue]

Mangala is the wrong player to be criticizing. At least he played with some level of intensity. How f***ing embarrassing though? I mean reaaaally. Really... I've never had the guts to criticize Pellegrini until now, but there is just no f***ing excuse for how soft we played. GROW SOME BALLS AND DRILL INTO THESE MENTALLY WEAK VAGINAS. Holy s*** I'm teed off

They just get more and more obvious.

And why pick a thread where real supporters are already doing nothing but having a moan at a horrible performance?

Very lazy. You know the world is circling the drain when the standard of trolls drops this low.