City v Newcastle, Carling Cup - Post Match Thread

And a last one
Pellegrini brought Caballero for 8m meanwhile Olympiacos spent 6 for Roberto whose won himself Juve and Atletico...

Goodnight
 
Fernandinho was worth every penny because he added something that had been missing to our midfield. And we won a double thanks in part to that player.

He hasn't been the same yet this season but that doesn't wipe out what he's done so far.

Nor can you judge the price-tag of Mangala, a 23-year-old who will probably peak half a decade from now, on a handful of his first games in a ruthlessly tough league. Just look at Evra and Vidic's early days at the swamp.

And what Pellegrini accomplished with Villarreal and Malaga was more impressive than Koeman's feats to date. That isn't to say Koeman (who played a 4-4-2 formation for Southampton tonight, BTW) won't turn out to be a top class coach, but right now it would be farcical to sack Pellegrini to bring him in. It's all very different at a top club and Pellegrini has done a fine job until now. If we sack every manager at the first sign of a crisis, well... have a look at Leeds lately.
 
oasis-city-greek-fan said:
And a last one
Pellegrini brought Caballero for 8m meanwhile Olympiacos spent 6 for Roberto whose won himself Juve and Atletico...

Goodnight

You know, I'm starting to think you're a master debater.
 
oasis-city-greek-fan said:
aguero93:20 said:
oasis-city-greek-fan said:
Thank god they are not 80

Failing to see the point here.

Too much money man !!!I don t think that if Pellegrini was the manager would make these choices..something is wrong
But i don t trust either Pellegrini

Yep. Blame Pellegrini for the signings....
 
LoveCity said:
Fernandinho was worth every penny because he added something that had been missing to our midfield. And we won a double thanks in part to that player.

He hasn't been the same yet this season but that doesn't wipe out what he's done so far.

Nor can you judge the price-tag of Mangala, a 23-year-old who will probably peak half a decade from now, on a handful of his first games in a ruthlessly tough league. Just look at Evra and Vidic's early days at the swamp.

And what Pellegrini accomplished with Villarreal and Malaga was more impressive than Koeman's feats to date. That isn't to say Koeman (who played a 4-4-2 formation for Southampton tonight, BTW) won't turn out to be a top class coach, but right now it would be farcical to sack Pellegrini to bring him in. It's all very different at a top club and Pellegrini has done a fine job until now. If we sack every manager at the first sign of a crisis, well... have a look at Leeds lately.

At least you understand me ...
Another fight till the end.. .
Goodnight
 
aguero93:20 said:
oasis-city-greek-fan said:
And a last one
Pellegrini brought Caballero for 8m meanwhile Olympiacos spent 6 for Roberto whose won himself Juve and Atletico...

Goodnight

You know, I'm starting to think you're a master debater.

You Know I m starting to think you re a rocket scientist
 
A 410 mile round trip, (I live near Great Yarmouth), to watch a very lacklustre display from City - too many players are off the pace at the moment. I know we were spoilt last season with flair, skill, effort and goals, but i would settle for the odd goal with lots more effort at the moment!

Newcastle were sharper and hungrier than us tonight - we need a big improvement for Sunday.
 
Whole team was dreadful, although I'd give credit to Jovetic for making the effort even though he was running around like a headless chicken.
Shambolic display all round!
 
AUnwin said:
The_Maverick said:
ninjamonkey said:
bad spells can happen but what's worrying is Pellegrini doesn't seem to recognise the problems. He keeps coming out post match and saying we were unlucky or we created enough chances to win etc etc. Of course, this may just be a front for the media and i certainly hope so but each week he seems to stick with the same plan that so clearly isn't working for us.

4-4-2 just isn't working whatsoever. it's plain for everybody to see. The few games we've played alright this season we've played 4-5-1. 4-4-2 relies too heavily on wide players getting in good crosses, and having players in the box to get on the end of them. We rarely have more than 1 player in the box and we don't put in many crosses at all. The formation is far too rigid and it feels like we're cramming players into un-natural positions i.e Silva which causes further problems defensively.

opposition players can telegraph our play 2-3 passes ahead and can comfortably defend against it. Our play at the moment consists of the ball going out to the fullback, who squeezes it to the winger ahead of him. Then that winger is stuck with little space and no options so he goes back, yaya will usually pick the ball up, stand still for 4-5 seconds then spray it to the other side where we do exactly the same thing again. This is repeated continuously until we can either inch forward enough to get a corner or we get pressured into launching the ball forward and inevitably lose it.

We need to revert back to 4-5-1, it allows Silva to play his natural game which is critical to all our play and it allows some of the other midfielders a bit more freedom to interchange and actually move into space. It obviously offers a bit more protection for our shambles of a defence and we seem to play with a quicker tempo too which is severely lacking at the moment.

I've ranted on enough now so i won't even get on to our defending, i will just say however that we're never going to get it right defensively as a unit if we continuously rotate 3/4 of our defenders every single game. We need a sustained period with a first choice back 4 to allow them to develop a proper understanding.


Good luck fishing.

Need a spare net?


Am I missing something here? Ninjamonkey's post raised some good points and generally echoed the opinions of most on this thread. How is he fishing?

Let me know if you find out mate.Ii've literally no idea what he could possibly have deemed as fishing. I don't think i said anything totally absurd or radical?
 

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