City Vs Everton Pre Match Discussion Thread

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TheFriendlyEvertonian said:
Just throwing a couple of ideas about, but in a game where you are surely expected to win, why not go at it with a 3 back formation, as Pellegrini seem to like his 2 strikers?
---------------------------Hart-----------------------------
----------Kompany - Nastasic - Lescott-------
Zabaleta -------------------------------Kolarov/Clichy
--------------Toure-----Fernandinho-----
----------------------Silva------------------
----------Aguero------------Negredo----------

I actually think the only way you can have a decent balanced midfield and play two strikers in the modern game is by playing a 3-5-2 or a 3-4-1-2 formation.

I think Rodgers at Liverpool might be on to something with the 3-4-1-2 he is playing with Lucas and Gerrad as a base then with Coutinho behind the two strikers to make up the midfield three.

Liverpool don't have great wide men, if at all, so the wingbacks of Johnson and Enrique works for them, if anything I think those two players a better wingbacks than full backs.

If they went 4 at the back I don't think they could accomodate both Suarez and Sturridge without conceeding less possession.
 
They have a new manager, we have a new manager. I'd say they are favourites going into Saturday by virtue of having a manager who has fewer players at his disposal but knows how to play to a system and get that across to his team. They seem to be better organised under Martinez and each knows what his role is. I hope Pantilimon, Lescott and Negredo replace Hart, Nastasic and Dzeko.
 
stan bowles said:
They have a new manager, we have a new manager. I'd say they are favourites going into Saturday by virtue of having a manager who has fewer players at his disposal but knows how to play to a system and get that across to his team. They seem to be better organised under Martinez and each knows what his role is. I hope Pantilimon, Lescott and Negredo replace Hart, Nastasic and Dzeko.
There is no reason to replace Nastasic. He had a average game like everyone else.

The changes I'll make are as follows:
Keep Hart: Just adjust to the fact he is now your run of the mill Prem GK. He is not gonna make magic saves like he used to anymore.
Fullback rotation: Zab and Kola for Micah and Clichy: Even though I thought both MIcah and Clichy were decent in the game.
Keep the CD patnersship, they were decent. And Lescott is a far step below either one.
Central Mid: Yaya and Fernandihno starts: As the backups a re drop off (Rodwell, Garcia)
Wide: Milner and Silva Starts (rotation with Nasri and Navas)
AM: Jovetic
ST: Aguero
..............................Hart................................
Zabs.....Kompany....Nasty.......Kolarov..
........................Dihno...................................
Milner........Yaya,,,,,,,Jovetic...........Silva
...........................Aguero.............................
 
mike channon´s windmill said:
Will it be "bad day at the office" or "manager needs time to bed in" or "a step in the right direction even though.."

This will be one excuse too many to look forward to
I can´t wait
the players need time to get used to the new system...me thinks.<br /><br />-- Thu Oct 03, 2013 10:40 pm --<br /><br />
Jimfv1 said:
Blue and Proud said:
Pantillimon in for Hart, Lescott in for Nasti, Negredo in for Dzeko.

I agree, and push Toure further forward and only play one proper striker.
Nail on fucking head, why cant the manager see this ?
 
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1. Your thoughts on the season so far ?

Disappointing, save for stuffing the rags

2. How happy were you with the transfer window?

Reasonably happy at the time, although top drawer cover at centre half was a glaring omission that we failed to address. Would also like to have seen some searing pace up front and down the left flank, but we went for different qualities with Negredo and Jovetic

3. Your thoughts on your managerial change ?

Again, reasonably positive at the time, but a few doubts have emerged since. Certainly tactically we seem very inflexible and unable to cope with teams pressing us high up the pitch, and the manager doesn't seem to be responding to what is an increasingly frequent problem, especially away from home. Early days yet though.

4. Your thoughts on Evertons managerial change ?

Very positive. Good manager espousing good football. Would have been quite happy to see him at City

5. Everton have beaten City 9 times in the past 12 meetings, losing twice only, so why do you think this is?

Quite simply Moyes sussed our weakness very early on and played on it. We had no width under Mancini and struggled against anyone prepared to park the bus and harry our creative players. Everton were past masters at it. Plus we were congenitally incapable of marking Tim Cahill

6. What are your thoughts on the possible shift of domination from Manchester teams to Liverpool teams this season?

Domination?! Blimey, someone's got big ideas on the back of their 6 game unbeaten streak! In all honesty though, I couldn't give a toss about anyone other than City. I couldn't care less where Liverpool or Everton finish, so long as it isn't above us. For the record though I think Liverpool will finish top 3 if Suarez and Sturridge stay fit, and that City and United could both easily miss out on a top 4 spot, if they don't sort themselves out. I don't think Everton will finish top 4 either, but I think they'll come closer than they've ever done, especially with Lukaku at their disposal. Chelsea must be mad letting him go.

7. Is Gareth Barry likely to stay at Everton now, and were you sorry to see him leave?

Yes and yes. The most underrated player in Premiership history. Fans of other clubs all ridiculously judged Barry on the basis of one horror show moment in the Euros when Mesut Ozil skinned him alive, but the reality is that he's one of the best defensive midfield players in the business. The only question mark is whether his 32 year old legs can stay the course of another long hard season. He's got zero pace and struggled badly last year against teams that pressed him. Ironically Everton were one of those teams. For the most part though, he's a class act and most City fans can't understand why we let him go, even if his wages were high.

8. Predict the score and the scorers.

I honestly think you may well beat us again. Martinez had our number last year, and I'm expecting 4-5-1 again with our midfield given no time or space. If Pellegrini matches your numbers in midfield then we've got the talent to tear you a new one, but so far this season he's stuck rigidly to 4-4-2 and we've been overrun on more than one occasion as a result.
I'm gonna go for a Desmond, Ya Ya and Sergio for us, Lukaku and the shit Bradley Wiggins for you


Much obliged.

Look forward to the game as always, and wish you well for the season.

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..............................Hart................................
Zabs.....Kompany....Lescott.....Kolarov
...................Ferna.......Yaya.........................
Milner...........Aguero/Jovetic...........Silva
..........................Negredo.............................

On the one hand obviously we're better when Aguero plays but he ran himself into the ground last night and Jovetic needs games so I'd be happy with either starting. Nastasic has played the full 90 mins 6 times for us and twice for Serbia so far this year so a break would do him good.

Also would like Yaya to be pushed further forward but not sure I like the idea of just Fernandinho in front of the back 4 but I suppose it's easily done but only if Jimmy's on too imo
 
sam-caddick said:
TheFriendlyEvertonian said:
Just throwing a couple of ideas about, but in a game where you are surely expected to win, why not go at it with a 3 back formation, as Pellegrini seem to like his 2 strikers?
---------------------------Hart-----------------------------
----------Kompany - Nastasic - Lescott-------
Zabaleta -------------------------------Kolarov/Clichy
--------------Toure-----Fernandinho-----
----------------------Silva------------------
----------Aguero------------Negredo----------

Went through my mind a few times. I will always remember the 2nd half of the FA cup game when we were 1 man down and played 3-5-1 and dominated rags (we ended up losing 3:2, but won that half 2:0). I think that's where Mancini got the idea to play 3-5-2 in the following season. Too bad that it didn't work out. I like the idea, very much.
 
shadowyu said:
sam-caddick said:
TheFriendlyEvertonian said:
Just throwing a couple of ideas about, but in a game where you are surely expected to win, why not go at it with a 3 back formation, as Pellegrini seem to like his 2 strikers?
---------------------------Hart-----------------------------
----------Kompany - Nastasic - Lescott-------
Zabaleta -------------------------------Kolarov/Clichy
--------------Toure-----Fernandinho-----
----------------------Silva------------------
----------Aguero------------Negredo----------

Went through my mind a few times. I will always remember the 2nd half of the FA cup game when we were 1 man down and played 3-5-1 and dominated rags (we ended up losing 3:2, but won that half 2:0). I think that's where Mancini got the idea to play 3-5-2 in the following season. Too bad that it didn't work out. I like the idea, very much.
We did not dominate Utd. Utd just decided to play the game out, and pass the ball sideways. And it nearly back-fired on them
 
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