Classless Mourinho

jonmcfc said:
20sbc07 said:
Reason said:
The thread title, in a nutshell:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTDic5KunQA[/youtube]

Acting as if Messi stinks is really childish. Looking forward to the twat getting a ban, he thoroughly deserved it.

I think thats brilliant!!
Imagine it was rooney and Mancini was standing behind him saying he smells, we'd love him for it.

If Mancini was leaving I'd love to have Mourinho here.


City doesn`t need a disgrace like mourinho

So you're saying if the next time we play the rags, Mancini makes fun of 1 of their players you'll hate him and call him a disgrace? Bollocks, he'd become an instant city legend, like Balotelli and the wink.
 
Perhaps he hasn't lost the plot and it is all an act to detract from the loss and get his team to show the siege mentality that has won him two champions league. Mourinho is the master. His players are now treating el classico like they are fighting for their families lives. He has instillied that willingness to work and hunt the Barca players. I'd say they were a better team over two legs. If our players had shown such commitment to the cause in the community shield then we might have won. Look how close they are to Barca compared to that 5-0 loss last year. Mourinho will have the better of them this year I believe.

I don't. Real played some excellent stuff in attack last night, and Barca were nowhere near their best, yet they didn't create that much, and the equaliser was a howler, pure and simple.

Barca have the edge and then some. They know they can wind Real up. If anything, what Mourinho was trying to do with his sneaky little jibes was show that Real can wind Barca up as much. But I've seen nothing to suggest that Barca are losing their cool in any way which is unhelpful to them. The bench clearing and controversy is working in their favour. It's always Real who end up a man down, losing yet again. Think of it this way, how can you wind up people who have the satisfaction of beating you five times out of six? When YOU can't keep your head?

Real's lack of discipline is costing them. In the case of last night, it cost them any chance of saving a game they were losing. And there is a fine line between being fostering a very intense 'us against the world' mentality, and people within the team maybe just a very few fleeting second thoughts about what they have become, and whether they actually deserve to be winners.

But what can you say? Mourinho organises them, teaches them every trick in the book, gives them extreme motivation. He gives them belief, says, if you play to your best and do it my way, you will beat them, because we are the best. And they still don't win. There was a brilliant line in the Spanish press. Mourinho, a symbol of impotence. Losing hurts them, which is good. But maybe all the acting up shows is that they know deep down, they have nothing more to throw at it. They can't bear it. But it keeps happening anyway.

The tension between the Spanish players appears to be key to all of this. As much as Casillas and Ramos love Madrid, they love their country, they love their national team. I think that's why the Barca boys say Mourinho is ruining Spanish football. They are talking about the damage being done to relationships between members of the national team, and the danger of someone like Fabregas or Iniesta being injured in one of these games and missing a tournament. Trying to drive a tiny wedge between Real's Spanish contingent and Mourinho. Even just sowing a little doubt in their minds would be enough.
 
Chick Counterfly said:
Perhaps he hasn't lost the plot and it is all an act to detract from the loss and get his team to show the siege mentality that has won him two champions league. Mourinho is the master. His players are now treating el classico like they are fighting for their families lives. He has instillied that willingness to work and hunt the Barca players. I'd say they were a better team over two legs. If our players had shown such commitment to the cause in the community shield then we might have won. Look how close they are to Barca compared to that 5-0 loss last year. Mourinho will have the better of them this year I believe.

I don't. Real played some excellent stuff in attack last night, and Barca were nowhere near their best, yet they didn't create that much, and the equaliser was a howler, pure and simple.

Barca have the edge and then some. They know they can wind Real up. If anything, what Mourinho was trying to do with his sneaky little jibes was show that Real can wind Barca up as much. But I've seen nothing to suggest that Barca are losing their cool in any way which is unhelpful to them. The bench clearing and controversy is working in their favour. It's always Real who end up a man down, losing yet again. Think of it this way, how can you wind up people who have the satisfaction of beating you five times out of six? When YOU can't keep your head?

Real's lack of discipline is costing them. In the case of last night, it cost them any chance of saving a game they were losing. And there is a fine line between being fostering a very intense 'us against the world' mentality, and people within the team maybe just a very few fleeting second thoughts about what they have become, and whether they actually deserve to be winners.

But what can you say? Mourinho organises them, teaches them every trick in the book, gives them extreme motivation. He gives them belief, says, if you play to your best and do it my way, you will beat them, because we are the best. And they still don't win. There was a brilliant line in the Spanish press. Mourinho, a symbol of impotence. Losing hurts them, which is good. But maybe all the acting up shows is that they know deep down, they have nothing more to throw at it. They can't bear it. But it keeps happening anyway.

The tension between the Spanish players appears to be key to all of this. As much as Casillas and Ramos love Madrid, they love their country, they love their national team. I think that's why the Barca boys say Mourinho is ruining Spanish football. They are talking about the damage being done to relationships between members of the national team, and the danger of someone like Fabregas or Iniesta being injured in one of these games and missing a tournament. Trying to drive a tiny wedge between Real's Spanish contingent and Mourinho. Even just sowing a little doubt in their minds would be enough.

Going off previous matches I don't think Barca do have as much of an edge as people think. Lets look at this years results. Champions league 2-0 due to some outrageous cheating by Alves which should have seen him go for a second yellow but Pepe went off instead and Messi finally imposed himself. Barca quite simply weren't going to score in that match until that happened. Champions league 1-1 at the nou camp. This is without Mourinho, Pepe and Ramos (I think), gave them a decent match. Kings cup, Madrid win fairly 1-0, hold their own against Barca again. In the league it's 1-1, again a fairly evenly contested match. They then win yesterday by an 88th minute goal, Madrid were the better team if anything. They drew 2-2 at the Bernabau where Madrid were the better team. 6 matches, 3 draw, 1 Madrid win and 2 Barca wins, hardly dominated by anyones standards. You claim they have won 5 times out of 6, certianly not that many on my count.

The game had already been lost, 14 seconds left and it was done out of frustration. It didn't cost real anything. Barca lose their cool every time Real start to have the upper hand and make the most of every single challenge. If you think United are bad for crowding round the ref well Barca take it to a whole new level. Guardiola lost his cool in one of the interviews last year and Mourinho knows he is getting to Barca and has done in the past. You only need to see the reception he got when he arrived with his Inter team to see how much he has got to the Barca fans. Add to that the reaction of being dumped out of the champions league and you see that he is the one person that has got to Barca and made Guardiola lose his cool.

They will never place any wedge between Mourinho and his players. You only need to look at the effect he has everywhere he goes to see that his players will do absolutely anything for him. He instills the attitude that Barca are the enemy and as can be seen by Ramos and Casillas actions at recent games they'll give everything for Madrid and think about the national team later. Ramos won't change the way he goes about this game no matter what the Barca players say.
 
Chick Counterfly said:
Perhaps he hasn't lost the plot and it is all an act to detract from the loss and get his team to show the siege mentality that has won him two champions league. Mourinho is the master. His players are now treating el classico like they are fighting for their families lives. He has instillied that willingness to work and hunt the Barca players. I'd say they were a better team over two legs. If our players had shown such commitment to the cause in the community shield then we might have won. Look how close they are to Barca compared to that 5-0 loss last year. Mourinho will have the better of them this year I believe.

I don't. Real played some excellent stuff in attack last night, and Barca were nowhere near their best, yet they didn't create that much, and the equaliser was a howler, pure and simple.

Barca have the edge and then some. They know they can wind Real up. If anything, what Mourinho was trying to do with his sneaky little jibes was show that Real can wind Barca up as much. But I've seen nothing to suggest that Barca are losing their cool in any way which is unhelpful to them. The bench clearing and controversy is working in their favour. It's always Real who end up a man down, losing yet again. Think of it this way, how can you wind up people who have the satisfaction of beating you five times out of six? When YOU can't keep your head?

Real's lack of discipline is costing them. In the case of last night, it cost them any chance of saving a game they were losing. And there is a fine line between being fostering a very intense 'us against the world' mentality, and people within the team maybe just a very few fleeting second thoughts about what they have become, and whether they actually deserve to be winners.

But what can you say? Mourinho organises them, teaches them every trick in the book, gives them extreme motivation. He gives them belief, says, if you play to your best and do it my way, you will beat them, because we are the best. And they still don't win. There was a brilliant line in the Spanish press. Mourinho, a symbol of impotence. Losing hurts them, which is good. But maybe all the acting up shows is that they know deep down, they have nothing more to throw at it. They can't bear it. But it keeps happening anyway.

The tension between the Spanish players appears to be key to all of this. As much as Casillas and Ramos love Madrid, they love their country, they love their national team. I think that's why the Barca boys say Mourinho is ruining Spanish football. They are talking about the damage being done to relationships between members of the national team, and the danger of someone like Fabregas or Iniesta being injured in one of these games and missing a tournament. Trying to drive a tiny wedge between Real's Spanish contingent and Mourinho. Even just sowing a little doubt in their minds would be enough.

Top, top post. Well done.

Barca played a few benchwarmers, including a youth player, in their first leg and still won. Even without Puyol.

Real's frustration is about knowing that no matter what they do, they cannot win against superior class.
 
Watched both legs. 2 great games, and the gap between Real madrid and Barca has closed a lot.

But the game last night was littered with some very nasty fouls from Real madrid. The ref was too lenient, but some of the fouls were difficult to spot.

These 2 teams are way above anyone else
 
I think quite frankly the actions of both teams are disgusting. When you have two teams filled with such quality players, the fact that the games are remembered more for these types of incidents is a bad thing. If Mancini/players/club officials were to act like this i would be ashamed of it.

I know people are going to mention the wink incident with balotelli and ferdinand. Sure this was a bit cheeky on mario's part but it is a million miles from eye gouging, blatantly hacking a player on his debut because you've lost, acting like a player smells, diving and rolling round like they've been shot, hounding the ref, the bench all running onto the pitch to start a mass brawl etc.

Let the football do the talking and if you cant win accept it and come back better the next time.
 
Sleeping_Easy said:
I think quite frankly the actions of both teams are disgusting. When you have two teams filled with such quality players, the fact that the games are remembered more for these types of incidents is a bad thing. If Mancini/players/club officials were to act like this i would be ashamed of it.

I know people are going to mention the wink incident with balotelli and ferdinand. Sure this was a bit cheeky on mario's part but it is a million miles from eye gouging, blatantly hacking a player on his debut because you've lost, acting like a player smells, diving and rolling round like they've been shot, hounding the ref, the bench all running onto the pitch to start a mass brawl etc.

Let the football do the talking and if you cant win accept it and come back better the next time.

You'd be ashamed if we did that? Personally if we were losing in the dying seconds against the scum I want nothing more that De Jong to get Nani like Marcelo got Fabregas. I think the el classicos are currently brilliant. This complete hostility and hatred that Mourinho has brought with him has made them the most entertaining derby to watch in years.
 
Lucky13 said:
Ducado said:
It looks like he has lost the plot to be honest, perhaps the pressure has got to him


I was saying the same yesterday , thankfully we have Mancini.

i've always been a jose fan but he definatley has lost his marbles, i posted once that i'd love him here(if bobby walked) but he isn't worth the baggage.well he's gone worse since and as said i think we are very lucky to have mancini, weird tactics at times but class on and off the field.
 
Seems like Villanova got his revenge. Take that you sneaky bastard. :)

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