1_barry_conlon said:LoveCity said:He's still not as bent as Peter Walton, no one I have seen in English football in my lifetime is. Walton didn't even leave any room for argument, he was bent, end of story.
Alf Grey still gets my vote above all others.
-- Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:46 am --
Bluemoon115 said:Peter Herbert on SSN talking crap again.
He seems to be chasing his 15 minutes of fame with some guile lately.
JoeMercer'sWay said:Mark Clattenburg: Chelsea & FA accused of cover-up
Chelsea and the Football Association have been accused of a "cover-up" for not referring alleged comments by referee Mark Clattenburg to the police.
The Metropolitan Police has dropped its investigation into a complaint that Clattenburg used "inappropriate language" towards two Chelsea players.
The complaint was made to the police by the Society of Black Lawyers.
"It sounds remarkably like a football cover-up," the society's chairman Peter Herbert told BBC Radio 5 live.
Mark Clattenburg timeline
28 Oct: Sends off Ivanovic and Torres, as Chelsea lose to Manchester United. Accused of using "inappropriate language" to two Chelsea players - John Obi Mikel and Juan Mata. Chelsea complain to Premier League delegate.
29 Oct: Offered full support of referees' union, but is stood down for next round of matches. FA starts investigation, Society of Black Lawyers sends a letter to the Metropolitan Police calling for a legal investigation.
30 Oct: Met Police begin investigation.
31 Oct: Chelsea lodge formal complaint with FA over Mikel but decide not to pursue allegations against Juan Mata.
13 Nov: Met Police drop investigation.
"It sounds remarkably like the football industry wanted to have this issue swept under the carpet."
Chelsea made a formal complaint against Clattenburg on 29 October following their 3-2 home defeat by Manchester United.
A day later the FA opened an investigation into the allegation, part of which was that Clattenburg used racial language.
Meanwhile, the Metropolitan Police began its own probe based on a written complaint by Herbert - not Chelsea or the FA.
It is understood Chelsea did not give evidence to the police because they felt the FA was the appropriate body to deal with the matter.
On Tuesday, the police investigation was discontinued because "no victims have come forward" and "without a victim and/or any evidence that any offence has been committed, the matter cannot currently be investigated".
The FA confirmed its investigation would proceed, but Herbert is furious that neither the governing body nor Chelsea have taken the matter to the police.
"We strongly suspect that the FA and/or Chelsea have failed to provide this information to the Metropolitan Police in order for them to conduct a proper investigation," he said.
"The information we had is that there are 'no victims'. Well, if there are no victims, what on earth has been referred to the FA in the first place?
"What on earth are the FA and Chelsea playing then? Are they having some cosy exchange of statements between themselves and not giving it to the police?
"We are going to ask the borough commander for an explanation. Was there any co-operation? Was any evidence given? If none was given by the FA or Chelsea we will want to raise that issue with the Minister of Sport."
Herbert is particularly critical of the FA's decision not to involve the police once Chelsea made their complaint.
"If the Metropolitan Police are not provided with statements what are they supposed to do?" he added.
"If a football club has registered a complaint with the FA, we would expect the FA to refer this matter to the Metropolitan Police.
"The FA does not have the tools to investigate race-hate crime. We think that until the FA gets its house in order complaints like this should be investigated by the police.
"It really does beggar belief that the primary football authorities in the country do not understand the seriousness of hate crime."
says it all, wonder where the web stops now the first strand has been uncovered.
Helmet Cole said:JoeMercer'sWay said:Mark Clattenburg: Chelsea & FA accused of cover-up
Chelsea and the Football Association have been accused of a "cover-up" for not referring alleged comments by referee Mark Clattenburg to the police.
The Metropolitan Police has dropped its investigation into a complaint that Clattenburg used "inappropriate language" towards two Chelsea players.
The complaint was made to the police by the Society of Black Lawyers.
"It sounds remarkably like a football cover-up," the society's chairman Peter Herbert told BBC Radio 5 live.
Mark Clattenburg timeline
28 Oct: Sends off Ivanovic and Torres, as Chelsea lose to Manchester United. Accused of using "inappropriate language" to two Chelsea players - John Obi Mikel and Juan Mata. Chelsea complain to Premier League delegate.
29 Oct: Offered full support of referees' union, but is stood down for next round of matches. FA starts investigation, Society of Black Lawyers sends a letter to the Metropolitan Police calling for a legal investigation.
30 Oct: Met Police begin investigation.
31 Oct: Chelsea lodge formal complaint with FA over Mikel but decide not to pursue allegations against Juan Mata.
13 Nov: Met Police drop investigation.
"It sounds remarkably like the football industry wanted to have this issue swept under the carpet."
Chelsea made a formal complaint against Clattenburg on 29 October following their 3-2 home defeat by Manchester United.
A day later the FA opened an investigation into the allegation, part of which was that Clattenburg used racial language.
Meanwhile, the Metropolitan Police began its own probe based on a written complaint by Herbert - not Chelsea or the FA.
It is understood Chelsea did not give evidence to the police because they felt the FA was the appropriate body to deal with the matter.
On Tuesday, the police investigation was discontinued because "no victims have come forward" and "without a victim and/or any evidence that any offence has been committed, the matter cannot currently be investigated".
The FA confirmed its investigation would proceed, but Herbert is furious that neither the governing body nor Chelsea have taken the matter to the police.
"We strongly suspect that the FA and/or Chelsea have failed to provide this information to the Metropolitan Police in order for them to conduct a proper investigation," he said.
"The information we had is that there are 'no victims'. Well, if there are no victims, what on earth has been referred to the FA in the first place?
"What on earth are the FA and Chelsea playing then? Are they having some cosy exchange of statements between themselves and not giving it to the police?
"We are going to ask the borough commander for an explanation. Was there any co-operation? Was any evidence given? If none was given by the FA or Chelsea we will want to raise that issue with the Minister of Sport."
Herbert is particularly critical of the FA's decision not to involve the police once Chelsea made their complaint.
"If the Metropolitan Police are not provided with statements what are they supposed to do?" he added.
"If a football club has registered a complaint with the FA, we would expect the FA to refer this matter to the Metropolitan Police.
"The FA does not have the tools to investigate race-hate crime. We think that until the FA gets its house in order complaints like this should be investigated by the police.
"It really does beggar belief that the primary football authorities in the country do not understand the seriousness of hate crime."
says it all, wonder where the web stops now the first strand has been uncovered.
Just to play devils advocate for a second, I'm glad the FA are keeping the Met out of it at the moment. IMHO they are just trying to avoid another 'Terry' situation by doing their own investigation first. If they hand the evidence / investigation to the police CPS, it then forces their hand if the legal system aquits the accused the FA could get sued to fuck for convicting / punishing Clattenburg.
dennishasdoneit said:1_barry_conlon said:LoveCity said:He's still not as bent as Peter Walton, no one I have seen in English football in my lifetime is. Walton didn't even leave any room for argument, he was bent, end of story.
Alf Grey still gets my vote above all others.
-- Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:46 am --
Bluemoon115 said:Peter Herbert on SSN talking crap again.
He seems to be chasing his 15 minutes of fame with some guile lately.
If you knew anything about Herbert you would realize he hardly needs to be chasing fame.Neither is he a "cretin" as a previous poster called him.
One of the worlds top defence barristers.An articulate and principled man with the guts to speak out on issues he believes in.
Probably enjoying the money that the Prem are still paying him.baildon blue said:Clatters doesnt get a game this week as well.Whats he doing with is weekends away from football.
baildon blue said:Clatters doesnt get a game this week as well.Whats he doing with is weekends away from football.