Clergyman faces inquiry for ‘Sir Tom cult’ remarks

You are right but this guy did have some position of influence, he’s a clergyman in my church for crying out loud (not aiming that at you) and had a lot of followers.

Hopefully he loses that position for being a total moron.
Because of the current incumbent Archbishop, and the lefty clown before him, the CofE has seen congregations plummet, as it's now infested with
this type of crackpot. They'll never learn though, they'll persist in doubling down until it all vanishes, why oh why do institutions persist in pushing
their political agendas, it's a recipe for disaster.
 
It is in this occasion but do you not see the societal issue with making everything racist?
I certainly can. Whilst there are still people with racism in them in the world people like him, and Kick it Out/Black Lives Matter, really try their hardest to turn me off bothering about it. It would be such a better world if we did not pigeon hole everybody and instead just be humans.
 
Although this may come as a surprise, to be properly understood, Reverend Jarel Robinson-Brown's tweet needs to be placed within the context of wider Christian theology.

I'll have a go at filling in the background but my attempt to do so should not be taken as signifying approval of what he wrote.

First of all, in his King's College profile, Robinson-Brown mentions that in 2019 he 'experienced a sense of conversion to Anglo-Catholicism in Walsingham' and that he 'has interests in Liberation Theology [and] Queer Theology.'

These are clues as to what he is about.

‘Liberation Theology’ is the name given to a movement that emerged in Latin America in the 1960’s that was led by Roman Catholic priests, churches and theologians. In 1968, at a conference of Roman Catholic bishops from Latin America held in Columbia, some members insisted that the starting point for theological reflection must be the situation of the poor. Academic theologians in the earlier part of the century had not said much about poverty, apart from being against it, and the recent papal encyclicals that had resulted from Vatican II had highlighted the widening gap between rich and poor. Now that the membership of the Catholic Church was increasing in Latin American countries, it was felt that it was no longer acceptable to take poverty for granted. The whole system that was producing this poverty had to be challenged through direct action.

This entails that there must be ‘a preferential option for the poor’. In other words, proper Christian theology should be based on the experiences of the poorest and most wretched in society. It should not be merely abstract and dispensed from ‘on-high’ by specialists writing from a purely academic point of view.

It was also thought that Theology should not be politically passive. It was not sufficient for the Catholic Church to remain neutral by saying nothing critical about the governments and capitalist systems that were responsible for creating and perpetuating economic inequality.

The justification for this approach to doing Theology is Biblical. Liberation Theology actually takes its name from a passage in Luke’s gospel in which Jesus refers to the book of Isaiah and the requirement – as part of his teaching – to ‘liberate those who are oppressed’. The Parable of the Sheep and the Goats in Matthew 25, in which Jesus specifically identifies himself with the poor (‘I was hungry and you fed me, thirsty and you gave me something to drink’) is another popular passage as the Parable suggests that we are ultimately judged more than anything else on what we do for the most disadvantaged members of our society. Finally, the Exodus narrative chronicling the liberation of the Jews from slavery in Egypt provides a further important reference point that again demonstrates that God is on the side of the poor.

Liberation is therefore required in three different areas. Firstly, there is a need for the poor to be freed from the social economic and political oppression that creates poverty and dependence. Secondly, the oppressed need to be liberated from all historical forces that obstruct their freedom so that they can become responsible for their own destiny and live in solidarity. Thirdly, there must ultimately be liberation from sin, as sin is at the heart of all injustice.

Significantly, the Daily Mail mentioned that Robinson-Brown 'had branded Mr Johnson and Home Secretary Priti Patel 'oppressors' during lockdown'.

Although the Catholic Church was initially highly critical of this new movement due to suspicion of its fusion of Biblical theology with Marxism, in more recent times Pope Francis (an Argentinian) has also condemned ‘the idolatry of money’ (a reference to the second commandment – ‘You shall not make for yourself an idol, whether in the form of anything that is in heaven above or that is on the earth beneath’). Commenting on rising inequality in many societies – the gap that exists between the rich and the poor – he has also criticised the policy followed by many governments of not interfering with the way that businesses operate. This has led Rush Limbaugh, America’s most famous radio talk-show host, to accuse Pope Francis of ‘pure Marxism.’

Although Liberation Theology has not resulted in socialist governments becoming firmly established throughout Latin America, the movement has arguably drawn attention to the deficiencies of capitalism, a point which is relevant to everyone living after the 2008 financial crash in the age of austerity, especially now that capitalism is frequently presented as the only viable economic system, and given that Marxism has lost so much credibility in the wake of the collapse of the Soviet Union and the dilution of Communism in China. In the present world, supporters of Liberation Theology might even therefore be regarded as lone voices crying out in the wilderness.

End of part one.
 
In turn, Liberation Theology came to be an influence on Black Theology in the USA and elsewhere.

The phrase ‘Black Theology’ actually describes a movement that concerns itself with ensuring that the realities of the black experience are represented at the theological level. It became especially significant in the United States during the 1960’s and 70’s but the scope of its influence has extended to Africa and the Caribbean.

The first significant publication within the movement was Joseph Washington’s Black Religion. Dating from 1964, Washington’s book emphasized the need for the integration and assimilation of black theological insights into mainstream Protestantism. However, although this dovetailed with the racial integration that had been assumed by Martin Luther King and others to be the goal of the struggle for civil rights, alternative inspiration for Black Theology was provided by Malcolm X and the advent of the ‘Black Power’ movement.

As a result of the influence of the Nation of Islam, the Black Panthers and the Black Power Movement, younger blacks either started to leave the churches and some (like Muhammad Ali) went on to join the Nation of Islam, thus rejecting a Christianity that was assumed to be part of the white power structure. Black church leaders therefore faced a dilemma. Many did not want to go against Martin Luther King. Moreover whites, and some blacks, were made uneasy by the cry for black power. Some whites who felt that they had been allies in the civil rights struggle now felt snubbed. There were warnings that black power could endanger the ‘gains’ made in civil rights. Addressing some of these anxieties, in July 1966 the National Committee of Negro Churchmen issued a statement in support of the concept of black power.

Then, in 1968, Albert Cleage’s book Black Messiah urged black people to liberate themselves from white theological oppression. Though he had initially believed in integration – some of the churches he served were racially mixed – Bishop Cleage eventually came to despair of the hope that whites would ever willingly help blacks advance. He also befriended Malcolm X, the Black Muslim leader, who had Michigan roots. Arguing that scripture was written by black Jews, Cleage claimed that the gospel of a black Messiah had been perverted by St Paul in his attempt to make the Christian faith more acceptable to Europeans.

According to an obituary in the New York Times, Cleage split with both the white power structure and more moderate black leaders, and began to emphasize black separatism in economics, politics and religion. As he put it:

”The basic problem facing black people is their powerlessness,” he said. ”You can’t integrate power and powerlessness.”

Trying to counter what he saw as white domination of religion, like the Nation of Islam, Cleage promoted a gospel of black nationalism. He installed a larger-than-life painting of a black Madonna holding a black baby Jesus that was radical for its time, and preached that Jesus was a black revolutionary whose identity as such had been obscured by whites.

Subsequently, in 1969, the National Committee of Black Churchmen produced a statement on Black Theology in which it was described as follows:

Black theology is a theology of black liberation. It seeks to plumb the black condition in the light of God’s revelation in Jesus Christ, so that the black community can see that the Gospel is commensurate with the achievements of black humanity. Black theology is a theology of “blackness.” It is the affirmation of black humanity that emancipates black people from white racism, thus providing authentic freedom for both white and black people.

The most significant writer within the movement is generally agreed to be the recently deceased James Cone. Cone took it upon himself to reform Christianity along lines that allowed it to be part of black emancipation rather than an implement of white oppression. He wrote:

‘For me, the burning theological question was, how can I reconcile Christianity and Black Power, Martin Luther King, Jr.’s idea of nonviolence, and Malcolm X’s “by any means necessary philosophy?”‘

James Cone, Preface to Black Theology and Black Power

Cone’s first book, Black Theology and Black Power was published in 1969 and was quickly followed by A Black Theology of Liberation in 1970. Since then he has written many books on black theology. Among these God of the Oppressed (1975) is probably one of his best known works and The Cross and the Lynching Tree (2011) is his most recent.

Cone’s theology can be summarised as follows.

First of all, he argues that all theology is contextual:

‘Theology is not universal language about God. Rather, it is human speech informed by historical and theological traditions and written for particular times and places. Theology is contextual language – that is, defined by the human situation that give birth to it.’

Cone A Black Theology of Liberation

For Cone, theology is therefore also dialectical. It comes about through a dialogue or conversation between scripture and experience. Since Cone believed that God is revealed in history as well as in the Bible, the experiences of people themselves become a relevant basis for theology. He encouraged people to ‘read the Bible through the lens of the black tradition’ and rejected the idea that it could be viewed as the objective word of God. By making use of older African religious traditions and by drawing on more recent experiences Cone thinks that it is possible to create ‘a black religious tradition unique to North America’.

Most central to Cone’s theology is the idea of the Black Messiah.

Cone argued that if you read the gospels, the overwhelming impression is that Jesus sided with the weak and the oppressed. In fact, he did not just side with them he was one of them. Born to an unmarried mother in a working class family he became a wandering homeless traveller. Criticised by the religious elite (the Pharisees) he was eventually rounded up, tried by a biased court, humiliated and abused by his captors and ultimately put to death by those in power as a victim of hate and mob violence.

For Cone, the significance of this is that if Jesus was God incarnate (Cone said ‘He is the Revelation, the special disclosure of God to man…In short, Chris is the essence of Christianity’) then this means that God chose to become oppressed. God chose to become incarnate not as a rich person with privileges but as one of the underclass.

Much like Gutierrez, Cone thought that God is not impartial when faced with injustice. God does not ignore injustice but sides with the oppressed. For Cone, in his own environment and situation, this meant that God was not colour blind. God’s willingness to side with the oppressed against the oppressor means that God sides with the blacks against the whites.

Consequently, Cone things that Jesus can be described as symbolically black. Cone uses the term ‘ontologically black’ which means that in his essence – in his inner being – Jesus is black. This does not mean that, like Cleage, Cone thought that Jesus was actually literally black (though he did point out that Jesus would not have been the blue eyed Caucasian that western Christians tend to depict him as). The point is not Jesus’ literal colour, but what he stood for. By choosing to enter into the world in such a way that he himself experienced oppression, God chose to identify with black people. This means that their struggles are his struggles and – importantly – his eventual triumph will be their triumph.

Cone draws parallels in particular between Jesus’ crucifixion and the types of violence experienced by black Americans in the twentieth century. Between the end of the nineteenth century and the mid years of the twentieth century around 3,500 black Americans had been lynched in America – mostly in southern states. Jesus’ crucifixion, whilst done at the hands of the Roman authorities, has some similarities with a lynching. Supposedly the crowds chanted ‘crucify him, crucify him’ forcing the Roman governor Pilate to accept their demands or face a riot.

If the method of his means of death reinforces his status as one of the oppressed then his resurrection is a promise of hope for a better future. For Cone, part of the significance of the resurrection is that the oppressed one triumphs.

That is why Cone has arguably added a new Christological title to the range given in the New Testament. Not only is Jesus the Son of God or the Son of David, he is also Black Messiah. Historically Jesus is ‘black’ because he sides with the oppressed (by being baptised he acknowledges his place with sinners) but as the Black Christ, the Church preaches and recognises that his resurrection marks the triumph of justice over oppression. Black theology argues the necessity of combining the Jesus of history and the Christ of Faith.

For Cone, the Jesus of history represents the basis for belief. His life becomes the standard for evaluating Christological beliefs. The Christ of white Western Theology (a meek pacifist teaching people to turn the other cheek and encouraging the oppressed to patiently accept their suffering) fails the authenticity test when compared to the Jesus of History (as found in the Gospels).

One of the most controversial elements of Cone’s teaching is that he believed that liberation should be sought through ‘any means necessary’. He justified this on the basis that black people exist within a society which is geared against them (he compared their situation to that of Jews in Nazi Germany). He said ‘white appeals to “wait and talk it over” are irrelevant when children are dying and men and women are being tortured.’ Whilst his contemporary and fellow Christian black activist Martin Luther King advocated non-violent methods, Cone associated himself with the Black Power movement which was willing to use violence to achieve its goals.

Any white/black reconciliation which was possible was to be done on black terms. White people needed to ask for forgiveness and ‘become black’ – i.e. identify with the oppressed and experience oppression before reconciliation could be achieved. Cone was exceedingly critical of white churches which had not done enough to oppose racism and segregation. He argued that their lack of action meant that they were unchristian as they had failed to stand up for what Jesus really stood for. He described white churches as the antichrist and wrote:

‘Racism is a complete denial of the Incarnation and thus of Christianity. Therefore, the white denominational churches are unchristian.’

‘The most common misperception about Martin King is that he was nonviolent in the sense of being passive. That is incorrect and he would have rejected it absolutely. In fact, Martin King would say that if nonviolence means being passive, he would rather advocate violence. Nonviolence for him meant direct action, not passivity in the face of violence, so the world would understand how brutal the system is upon those who are poor and weak.

The most common misunderstanding of Malcolm X is that he advocated violence. Malcolm did not advocate violence but rather self-defence. He did not believe that oppressed people could gain their dignity as human beings by being passive in the face of violence. There was some tension between Malcolm and Martin largely because they tended to accept these perceptions of [each other]. But what is revealing is that Martin King came to realize that Malcolm did not really advocate violence in the same way as, [for example,] the Ku Klux Klan did. Even though he could not go along with self-defence as a form of social change, Martin King did advocate self-defence in terms of individuals who protect their home, their children, and their loved ones [from] people who would hurt them. Malcolm X came to see that Martin King’s idea of nonviolence was not passive. Actually, he wanted to join up with the civil rights movement and Martin King largely because [he saw] that nonviolent activists actually created more fear and more change than some of people within the Muslim movement. So he came to see Martin King in a much more positive light than is generally understood.’

End of Part 2.
 
Because of the current incumbent Archbishop, and the lefty clown before him, the CofE has seen congregations plummet, as it's now infested with
this type of crackpot. They'll never learn though, they'll persist in doubling down until it all vanishes, why oh why do institutions persist in pushing
their political agendas, it's a recipe for disaster.
I suspect the reduction in size of congregations might have a little bit more to it than a couple of lefty clergymen
 
You'r just as bad. Trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill to justify your own world view. You are choosing to see ghosts everywhere when there is nothing to see here.
Laughable.

I was called a racist several times last year for suggesting we shouldn’t import an American problem into Britain in the middle of a pandemic.

you are exactly the kind of person I am talking about, there must always be a cause.
 
Queer theology is also mentioned by Robinson-Brown. Unfortunately, this is not something that I know all that much about. Presumably it is some kind of extension of the theology of liberation to those who have been discriminated against because of their sexual orientation. My guess would be that this theology takes its inspiration partly from philosophers like Foucault.

I'm not too confident that I understand him all that well but Michel Foucault was a French philosopher who built his philosophy around the idea that ‘knowledge is power’. If you reject the idea that there is any such thing as absolute truth, Foucault thought that all you would then be left with is what most people in a society at any one time decide is true. In other words, consensus dictates the moral agenda when it comes to what is normal and abnormal, natural and unnatural as far as human behaviour is concerned.

From his study of history and , in particular, the history of sexuality, Foucault found that what was regarded as perverted sexuality varied according to time and place, depending on who was in charge and got to decide on this. So Foucault was an ethical relativist in this respect. For example, not so long ago, the power and influence of the Christian church was sufficient to ensure that homosexuality was regarded as unnatural , while more recently, psychologists like Freud and psychiatrists have been regarded as experts when it comes to deciding what is and what is not morally acceptable sexual behaviour. In particular, Foucault thought that all attempts to classify human sexuality in this way were misplaced and dangerous because they are designed to get people to conform to the moral standards of the most powerful and marginalise those who fall into the abnormal category. Foucault believed that we should not allow our sexual behaviour to be dictated by what he referred to as these dominant ‘discourses’. Foucault’s ideas have been developed by his followers into what is sometimes called ‘queer theory’, where the word ‘queer’ is intentionally used to question existing fixed views of sexuality.

One person who I do know a bit about is the Catholic theologian John Boswell. I will therefore end this series of posts with a quick summary of his research, as he might also be an influence on contemporary Queer Theology.

Boswell was a professor at Yale University, a remarkable scholar who read or spoke seventeen languages. Boswell was also openly gay and therefore understandably concerned about the wider issue of religion and homosexuality, and specifically the historical treatment of homosexuality within the Christian faith.

Boswell therefore deployed his linguistic skills to produce two controversial books. In the first of these, the 1980 American Book Award-winning Christianity, Social Tolerance and Homosexuality, he challenged the traditional readings of Old and New Testament passages that are typically invoked to demonstrate that homosexual behaviour is sinful and proscribed. Some of his alternative interpretations of these passages have accordingly been incorporated into these notes e.g. see the discussion of Leviticus above.

Here’s a little extract from the book to give a sense of the line he takes :

In sum, there is only one place in the writings which eventually became the Christian Bible where homosexual relations per se are clearly prohibited – Leviticus – and the context in which this prohibition occurred rendered it inapplicable to the Christian community, at least as moral law. It is almost never cited as grounds for objection to homosexual acts.

The notion that Genesis 19 – the account of Sodom’s destruction – condemned homosexual relations was the result of myths popularized during the early centuries of the Christian era but not universally accepted until much later and only erratically invoked in discussions of the morality of gay sexuality. Many patristic authors concluded that the point of the story was to condemn inhospitality to strangers; others understood it to condemn rape;most interpreted it in broadly allegorical terms, only tangentially related to Christianity.

There was no word in classical Greek for ‘homosexual’, and there is no evidence, linguistic or historical, to suggest that either the kadeshim of the Old Testament or the arsenokoitai of the New were gay people or particularly given to homosexual practices. On the contrary, it is clear that these words merely designated types of prostitutes: in the case of the former, those associated with pagan temples; in that of the latter, active (as opposed to passive) male prostitutes servicing either sex.’


Boswell also argued that the Roman Catholic Church had not always been hostile to gay people, and until the 12th century, had regarded homosexuality with considerable tolerance with some prominent Christians even expressing the love between men through the medium of poetry. In a later publication, Boswell’s primary argument was that throughout much of Medieval Christian Europe, unions between figures of the same sex and gender were socially acceptable and he claims to have discovered a liturgical manuscript that appears to describe a ceremony for sacramental union between two men.

Given ongoing opposition to same-sex marriage within some denominations of the Christian Church, it is perhaps to be regretted that Boswell’s thesis – controversial and well-known in its time – does not receive much attention these days.

So there you go. Make of all this what you will.
 
No doubt nationalists and patriots alike attached themselves to the 'cult' Sir Tom, including a few unsavoury types in the same way as the St George's flag, rule Brittania and the union flag get hijacked. This does not mean that there is anything 'white nationalist' about it though. No different to the national affection for very Lynn I suppose. The C of E are probably just put out because an increasingly secular nation replaces religion in times of trouble with the idolatry of capt Tom. Personally I think the media created a bit of a cult, but Tom himself sermed a lovely and decent man.
 
I suspect the reduction in size of congregations might have a little bit more to it than a couple of lefty clergymen
Oh, I agree, but this sort of idiocy has been replicated by the Top Dogs
in the church, and it's another nail in the coffin.
 

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