Climate Change is here and man made

Warming and cooling temps are the norm on earth it's called weather
But give some charts to a politician or a tree hugger and they will tell you more tax on oil co2 etc then dismantle all coal power stations will make things better and save the world
I would rather have a bit of smog than live next door to a nuclear reactor
What a load of bollocks
 
In that case why are wood chip burners considered an acceptable environmental way of producing energy?

They are a more environmentally acceptable way of producing energy than, say, coal-burners. Trees absorb atmospheric carbon dioxide while growing and release it back to the atmosphere when burnt, so the net effect is zero increase of atmospheric CO2. Burning coal on the other hand releases carbon that has been out of the atmospheric carbon-cycle for millions of years, so the net effect is an increase in atmospheric CO2. In addition, the extraction of coal is in itself an environmentally damaging process, as it takes a lot of energy (i.e. fuel) to get the coal from the ground to your stove.

Just love the use of big corporations as way of perpetuating the man made climate change sham, it boils down to anti capitalism and a way to stop third world countries using their own natural resources just like the developed world did. Keeping the poor, poor!

It's no sham! Yes, politically, it could be seen as anti-capitalist, but there is not doubt quite extensive lobbying of Governments by industries that would be harmed by any regulations to combat climate change. Similarly, the argument from developing nations that the developed nations already made themselves rich by exploiting the environment is very real, and to be honest, it's a very good point. What's the answer? I don't know, but it is certainly not "carry on as you are".

Warming and cooling temps are the norm on earth it's called weather
But give some charts to a politician or a tree hugger and they will tell you more tax on oil co2 etc then dismantle all coal power stations will make things better and save the world
I would rather have a bit of smog than live next door to a nuclear reactor
What a load of bollocks

Warm days and cold days, yes, that is called weather. But climate is something entirely different, and has immense impact on the current balance of many, many things, globally. Although it might seem ridiculous to think that any of these things is important (after all, we can live in Greenland and we can live in the Sahara, so an increase in global temperatures of 2C makes no difference, right?), it is the balance of these many natural cycles and environments that have allowed human civilisation to develop in the way it has. As I said in an earlier post, our planet will survive (you could say that the Earth couldn't care less what we do), and humans will almost certainly be able to adapt to a radically different planet, but it is foolish to think that we will be able to carry on living in the way we do now if climate continues to change at the rate it has been doing, and the long-term costs of sorting this out once it happens will make the current economic proposals seem a drop in the ever-increasing oceans!

And smog is nothing to do with it - that's pollution, not climate change.
 
NASA are completely impartial of course.....

You can argue that no-one is impartial in this. Both sides have an agenda (yes, really, a proper agenda), so you need to look past that, and look at what the science actually says.
And the science actually says: global warming is real, and is almost certainly caused by the significant increase in greenhouse gases in the atmosphere, which in turn are almost certainly mostly down to human activities in the last 150 years.

Another common sceptic's argument above is that the predictions were all wrong, so how can we believe any of this.

But this again is very easy indeed to explain. Climate science is a new discipline, and the study of climate change only really started in any seriousness in the early 1980s, and when the early "global warming" models were first postulated, they were based on very simple models. The more we have studied the Earth's climate, the more we understand how some of the extremely complex interactions come about, but even now, there is a huge amount we don't know. Imagine a freeze frame of a golf-ball 0.1s after being struck by a golfer; you know the ball's been hit and roughly the direction it is going, but you're asked to predict exactly where the ball lands, and where it will then roll to. That's what the first global warming predictions were trying to do, only they were trying make a prediction without actually knowing the club used, the speed or direction of the wind or the lie of the land where the ball would land. We're now perhaps at a freeze frame 1s after the ball was hit, so we have a much better idea which way it's going and can make a better prediction, but one thing for sure: the current prediction is still wrong. So it is for climate change - I am absolutely 100% certain that the current models can still not predict exactly what will happen, but they can predict with some certainty that the climate is changing and will continue to change if we do not do something about it.
 
Warming and cooling temps are the norm on earth it's called weather
But give some charts to a politician or a tree hugger and they will tell you more tax on oil co2 etc then dismantle all coal power stations will make things better and save the world
I would rather have a bit of smog than live next door to a nuclear reactor
What a load of bollocks

Yes, your post certainly was.

Do you think you know something about the climate that NASA scientist's don't?

You're also confusing weather with climate by the way.
 
Tbh I don't give a fuck what you think but I'd like to thank you for making me realise how many cunts there are on here. If you don't prescribe to the current left wing view of the world you're on a hiding to nothing, even one of the moderating team was bemoaning that some of the posters weren't towing the 'party line'. No discussion no nothing, I wish you well with your 'fucking this and bollocks to everything ' and your snide comments. I'd love to know how you get on on in the real world or if indeed you do get on, and with that I wish you and the rest of the cunts a fond farewell :0)
If you think we're all cunts, and most of us are, you know what you can do right? I'll remind you. Fuck right off.
 
Yes, your post certainly was.

Do you think you know something about the climate that NASA scientist's don't?

You're also confusing weather with climate by the way.
Things change naturally man. Man made climate change is a total myth.
 
You're very welcome to come and spend the day with me if you wanna know how i 'get on in the real world'. I'd show you my beautiful house (all paid for), lovely wife and family, how to bring up a 3 year old grandson or how to run your own successful business. Then we could go to the pub and meet some of my many friends, although the swearing might put you off them a bit. Hell i'll even pay your bus fare as i've got plenty of spare cash knocking about as well.
I'm off now to go and erect a community marquee so the locals can have a nice xmas feed and drink they otherwise couldn't afford. I've got a meeting with the council urban regeneration team after that but i'll be free around 3ish if you'd like to pop over. You could call me a **** to my face as well then and see how that works out in 'real life'.
 
Tbh I don't give a fuck what you think but I'd like to thank you for making me realise how many cunts there are on here. If you don't prescribe to the current left wing view of the world you're on a hiding to nothing, even one of the moderating team was bemoaning that some of the posters weren't towing the 'party line'. No discussion no nothing, I wish you well with your 'fucking this and bollocks to everything ' and your snide comments. I'd love to know how you get on on in the real world or if indeed you do get on, and with that I wish you and the rest of the cunts a fond farewell :0)
 

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