The club has done well so far with its urgent inquiry but they can't afford to delay with the results of the inquiry. It is how you respond to these issues that matters. We must be open and honest with victims at all stages. People understand that sometimes things go wrong but will never forgive a cover-up.I assume you have read the Martin Samuel article and agree that the club are getting their 'response right' and doing everything they can at the present time.
I believe this current Manchester City (legal entity) was only formed in 1994, after these offences were committed. So, it could well be that the current entity has no legal responsibility.
For those who consider my post to be hysterical all I can say is this is a lot closer to home for some than others.
I could post a hell of a lot more here but I wont as I would be seen as hysterical.
That's how cover ups work.
There was a holding company formed in 1994 but the legal entity of the football club company itself was established in 1894. Company number 40946.I believe this current Manchester City (legal entity) was only formed in 1994, after these offences were committed. So, it could well be that the current entity has no legal responsibility.
But the owners have shown some moral leadership in starting the inquiry a year ago and seemingly wanting to leave no stone unturned.
We should be chasing everyone who was complicit here. Who turned a blind eye? Did anyone come get for him and others? Throw the book at these people.
Taking the piss out of Munich is bad enough, but kids? Can you really see fans doing this & not getting slaughtered? There will always be one, but can you really see huge swathes of away fans doing this?You'd have thought plane crashes might not be a cause of piss-taking!
It just shows how sadistic & confident he must have been that he would get caught...He even employed the mothers of some of his victims.
I didn't assume, I just couldn't find any references to how he made his income to fund his football activities & 'flash' lifestyle. If you knew, you could have said just as i would have because the point I was making was purely about how he could afford to do what he was doing. Thankfully someone answered this important caveat.Think you had your answer.
As I said, best not to assume anything in matters like this.
What.....Despite the cover up??Just for info, David White has said on Twitter that the Club’s Support has been tremendous over the last 15 months.
What.....Despite the cover up??
Just for info, David White has said on Twitter that the Club’s Support has been tremendous over the last 15 months.
That’s exactly right. Well put.Having watched that Dispatches documentary one thing (inter alia) that struck me was that in the 70’s, 80’s and even the early 90’s, how much more innocent our society was; Ken Barnes perhaps being the most extreme example of this. This was an environment that predators such as Bennell exploited and thrived in; so that loss of innocence could be viewed as a necessary evil, but it’s hard not to be sad about the prevailing atmosphere of suspicion and cynicism that overwhelms modern society. Inevitable perhaps, but sad nonetheless.
In relation to many of those callings; they did it because they could - and they thought they were untouchable ad infinitum. How wrong they were.That’s exactly right. Well put.
We were warned not to talk to or go off with strangers. We’d had the Moors Murders trial so we knew there were bad people. But no one warned us about the people we thought we should be able to trust - priests, scout leaders, football coaches, teachers, family members and others.
Yep, spot on, John Kilbride was abducted from Ashton Market by Brady and Hindley in the 60's and it was absolutely ingrained in us not to talk to strangers or even accept sweets from them . However as you say no reference or warning was given about people with responsibility in those positions you mentioned .We wouldn't have known what paedophilia was and we were far removed from it. But now as it comes to light it was an underground, sinister activity that targeted vulnerable kids in many forms, from the poor and underprivileged to the aspiring footballers and Church choirboys. And let's not forget the good old BBC and their ambivalence towards abuse allegations with Saville and his cohorts.That’s exactly right. Well put.
We were warned not to talk to or go off with strangers. We’d had the Moors Murders trial so we knew there were bad people. But no one warned us about the people we thought we should be able to trust - priests, scout leaders, football coaches, teachers, family members and others.
You seem to indicate taking the piss out of abused kids is worse than taking the piss put of people killed in a plane crash. Or did I misinterpret?Taking the piss out of Munich is bad enough, but kids? Can you really see fans doing this & not getting slaughtered? There will always be one, but can you really see huge swathes of away fans doing this?
I suppose we'll all find out on Monday...
That's exactly what he said. Dribble or drivel? There doesn't seem to be any difference.You seem to indicate taking the piss out of abused kids is worse than taking the piss put of people killed in a plane crash. Or did I misinterpret?
West raped, tortured and murdered his own daughter, before burying her under the patio. A patio which was situated under the dungeon where he"d allowed his wife to watch the rape and torture of her own daughter. Shipman murdered people on what the police called, "an industrial scale". Both are light years ahead of Bennell in terms of sociopathic tendencies. Light years.Having watched that Dispatches documentary one thing (inter alia) that struck me was that in the 70’s, 80’s and even the early 90’s, how much more innocent our society was; Ken Barnes perhaps being the most extreme example of this. This was an environment that predators such as Bennell exploited and thrived in; so that loss of innocence could be viewed as a necessary evil, but it’s hard not to be sad about the prevailing atmosphere of suspicion and cynicism that overwhelms modern society. Inevitable perhaps, but sad nonetheless.
Child sex abuse is probably the most selfish of crimes and I’m certain Bennell’s sentence, quite rightly, will be over 20 years, if not life. He’s just as much a sociopath as Harold Shipman or Fred West were.
I’m equally sure the club will do the right thing.
I didn't assume, I just couldn't find any references to how he made his income to fund his football activities & 'flash' lifestyle. If you knew, you could have said just as i would have because the point I was making was purely about how he could afford to do what he was doing. Thankfully someone answered this important caveat.
West raped, tortured and murdered his own daughter, before burying her under the patio. A patio which was situated under the dungeon where he"d allowed his wife to watch the rape and torture of her own daughter. Shipman murdered people on what the police called, "an industrial scale". Both are light years ahead of Bennell in terms of sociopathic tendencies. Light years.