Cole Palmer

Palmer doesn’t work hard enough for the team and was probably one of the reasons we let him go and for decent money.
 
Pep made the right decision. We got 40m for an unproven player, it was the right decision and people need to move on.

There's a reason why Southgate didn't allow for Palmer to start any of the games, it's because Palmer is not a team player. It's the same reason why Pep never gave him a chance. It's the team that wins titles, not any one player. I saw pundits talking about his 100% penalty record being the highest ever in the epl as being some sort of achievement.. is laughable. Every time this guy does something the media tries to paint a narrative as if he is prime Messi. Not too long ago, people were raving about how he scored 4 goals in the first half which is the first time in the EPL history, but it shouldn't even count because one of the goals was from a penalty.

If you remove his penalties from his stats, he is probably no more than an average mid table player.

If he was so amazing last season, why did Chelsea finish 6th? The boy is clearly overrated. I would take Doku over Palmer every day of the week.
Very good
 
If you remove his penalties from his stats, he is probably no more than an average mid table player.

I compared his penalties scored record vs other prominent players in the league last season.

Palmer 22 league goals (9 penalties scored, 0 missed)
Salah 18 league goals (5 penalties scored, 2 missed)
Haaland 27 league goals (7 penalties scored, 1 missed)
Saka 16 league goals (6 penalties scored, 0 missed)
Son 17 league goals (2 penalties scored, 0 missed)

Penalties removed;

Palmer 13 goals
Salah 13 goals
Haaland 20 goals
Saka 10 goals
Son 15 goals
 
I compared his penalties scored record vs other prominent players in the league last season.

Palmer 22 league goals (9 penalties scored, 0 missed)
Salah 18 league goals (5 penalties scored, 2 missed)
Haaland 27 league goals (7 penalties scored, 1 missed)
Saka 16 league goals (6 penalties scored, 0 missed)
Son 17 league goals (2 penalties scored, 0 missed)

Penalties removed;

Palmer 13 goals
Salah 13 goals
Haaland 20 goals
Saka 10 goals
Son 15 goals

You are wasting your time. The narrative has been set by a few and the gullible just keep repeating it. I hope he continues to do well for you guys.
 
It works for Palmer at Chelsea precisely because his circumstances are very different to what they'd be at City.

He's a lad who thrives off having attacking freedom and very little in the way of defensive responsibility, which is exactly what Chelsea give him. Their midfield is comprised of two DMs (either Enzo and Lavia, or Enzo and Caicedo) who do all the running and protecting and fetching so that Palmer can concentrate on what's in front of him.

If Palmer's at City playing as an attacking CM, he's got to have the engine to run and run and run even when he doesn't have the ball. At Chelsea he can take breaks and fade out of games for stretches whenever Chelsea aren't in possession, because Maresca knows they need Palmer at his sharpest when he's receiving the ball high up.

He's basically Chelsea's Haaland, just playing deeper. He's the lad they accommodate for. Our midfielders and wingers press like fuck and do all the running because Haaland's at his best when he's been out of the game for a bit and is sharp when the ball drops to him 15-20 yards from goal. He can't do all the chasing and shouldn't.

As I've said before, I think Palmer is being a bit overrated (by the media and by City fans) because the narrative that we've finally, as a club, "made a mistake" by selling him is an effective story to sell. He does vanish in bigger games, he does tire out a bit easily if he doesn't take 15 mins to duck out of the action and hide a bit.

I think he also benefits from teams not parking the bus much against Chelsea. He's got lots more space to play in than he would were he still at City. There was a table posted on here that teams sit, on average, 10-15 yards deeper against City than they do against Chelsea. It all adds up to what we're seeing from Palmer at the moment.

But at the same time he's a very talented young lad thriving in a team that's built for him, and more power to him. He knew his destiny lay elsewhere, he knew he deserved better playtime, and he knew City were never going to build the team around him like he wanted. He made a smart move and Chelsea's gamble has paid off.

At the same time, that doesn't mean City made a mistake either. We got £45m slapped on the table in front of us for a lad who'd started 13 senior games and looked like he couldn't stay fit. We didn't have the gift of hindsight and there's no way of knowing what Palmer would have achieved with us had he stayed.

For what it's worth, I don't think he's going to become a top, top, top player in a top, top, top team. I just don't think he has the stamina to go for 80-90 minutes as often as you need to become a genuine all-time great. I don't think he'll reach De Bruyne's levels or be as decorated as Foden will be when they both retire in 12 to 15 years.

I think his legacy will be more like Ozil's than De Bruyne's, if that makes sense?

But he'll probably still win a handful of trophies with Chelsea, I'm sure. Maybe even a Premier League title if it continues going well under Maresca. And fair play to him. It was the best move for all parties. City to just have to make sure we miss him as little as possible with better recruitment in future transfer windows.
 
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I compared his penalties scored record vs other prominent players in the league last season.

Palmer 22 league goals (9 penalties scored, 0 missed)
Salah 18 league goals (5 penalties scored, 2 missed)
Haaland 27 league goals (7 penalties scored, 1 missed)
Saka 16 league goals (6 penalties scored, 0 missed)
Son 17 league goals (2 penalties scored, 0 missed)

Penalties removed;

Palmer 13 goals
Salah 13 goals
Haaland 20 goals
Saka 10 goals
Son 15 goals
And Phil Foden during his earlier years at City? If you had earlier Cole Palmer at your club he would have been sold.
 
You are wasting your time. The narrative has been set by a few and the gullible just keep repeating it. I hope he continues to do well for you guys.
Phil Foden had been streets ahead. If he had shown his Chelsea form he would have been ahead of Mahrez. Now narrative here. The only one is amongts not too friendly neutrals amongts the national press.
 

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