Community Shield | Sat 30th Jul, 17:00 @ King Power Stadium

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bluesmith said:
At what point did i say it wasn't called the Community shield? Its literally the title of the thread we are posting in? I said its a charity game. The money made goes to charity, the majority given to the 124 teams who play in the 1st round of the FA Cup to distribute to their chosen charities.
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Did you read the last message?

Some of the money goes to charities, yes, but not enough for it to be thought of as a charitable event.

Therefore, Blackburn (Leicester, or whoever hosts the game) will want recompense for use of their facilities.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Did you read the last message?

Some of the money goes to charities, yes, but not enough for it to be thought of as a charitable event.

Therefore, Blackburn (Leicester, or whoever hosts the game) will want recompense for use of their facilities.
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You quoted something from 20 years ago! The game raises money for charity therefore it is a charity game. Surely that's not difficult to comprehend?
 
bluesmith said:
You quoted something from 20 years ago! The game raises money for charity therefore it is a charity game. Surely that's not difficult to comprehend?
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I tried.

There’s nothing more I can do to try and show you that nowhere near 100% of the ticket sales go to charity. The charities commission confirmed this.

I bet Wembley take a hosting fee every years it’s held there too.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
I tried.

There’s nothing more I can do to try and show you that nowhere near 100% of the ticket sales go to charity. The charities commission confirmed this.

I bet Wembley take a hosting fee every years it’s held there too.
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Where did i say 100% of the ticket sales goes to charity? Did you honestly think i thought the FA put on an event which cost them money?

I said its a charity game in response to you suggesting Blackburn would get the gate receipt - thats all. Nobody takes a big cut of a charities money. Obviously Blackburn would be due fee, but that fee would be peanuts and swallowed up in costs to put the game on. Blackburn getting a fee isn't going to swing them to host the game. The only thing that would be the prestige of the game and that hardly worth it.
 
bluesmith said:
Where did i say 100% of the ticket sales goes to charity? Did you honestly think i thought the FA put on an event which cost them money?

I said its a charity game in response to you suggesting Blackburn would get the gate receipt - thats all. Nobody takes a big cut of a charities money. Obviously Blackburn would be due fee, but that fee would be peanuts and swallowed up in costs to put the game on. Blackburn getting a fee isn't going to swing them to host the game. The only thing that would be the prestige of the game and that hardly worth it.
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Lol, ok mate.
 
daveoswald said:
As one poster as already said, the simple thing to do would be to play the game at the Etihad or Anfield, decided by the toss of a coin. How difficult is that ffs.
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Boring as hell though, we play them at the Etihad or Anfield at least once each year. The reason I usually don’t go to the Community Shield is there is no novelty with Wembley and it’s of course it’s a piss take to play it there. This is a great chance for a one off showpiece at a ground where the atmosphere could be great, ticket prices decent and travel okay, so Leicester, Elland Road or Villa Park would be good for me.
 
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Alan Harper's Tash said:
Yes or FA payment. It’s in the bit you quoted.
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The fact that you thought there was any possibility they would get the gate receipt makes it clear you didn't have a clue what you were talking about. Rather than hold your hands up you made things up about what i said - bizarre.
 
bluesmith said:
The fact that you thought there was any possibility they would get the gate receipt makes it clear you didn't have a clue what you were talking about. Rather than hold your hands up you made things up about what i said - bizarre.
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They could get a percentage of the gate receipts as a payment for using their facilities.

They could also get a flat fee from the FA and not get a penny from the gate receipts.

Given that the charities committee deemed that the shield game could not be classed as a charitable event as not enough of the gate receipts went to charity, we can deduce that 100% of the gate receipts do not go to charity.

Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that stadium rent is taken from those gate receipts.

I don’t really understand why you can’t understand this.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
They could get a percentage of the gate receipts as a payment for using their facilities.

They could also get a flat fee from the FA and not get a penny from the gate receipts.

Given that the charities committee deemed that the shield game could not be classed as a charitable event as not enough of the gate receipts went to charity, we can deduce that 100% of the gate receipts do not go to charity.

Therefore, it is reasonable to assume that stadium rent is taken from those gate receipts.

I don’t really understand why you can’t understand this.
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I understand all of that - Barring the bit about you quoting something from 20 years ago which doesnt say what you think it says, the Fa were told not to call it a charity game as they were not evidencing any charity was paid quick enough and not informing fans where the money went at point of sale of the ticket - we now know where the money goes now and have done for about 15 years - 124 teams x £5k)

www.theguardian.com

Charity Shield warning for FA

The Charity Commission will tomorrow publish its findings into an inquiry surrounding allegations that the 2000 Charity Shield match broke fund-raising regulations.
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

My issue is you cant grasp that i understand all of that and never said anything different - Please quote where i said that the charity gets 100% of the money.

My point was clear they wont get the gate receipt from a charity game. If you agree with that i'm not sure what your point is.
 
bluesmith said:
I understand all of that - Barring the bit about you quoting something from 20 years ago which doesnt say what you think it says, the Fa were told not to call it a charity game as they were not evidencing any charity was paid - we now know where the money goes now and have done for about 15 years - 124 teams x £5k)

My issue is you cant grasp that i understand all of that and never said anything different - Please quote where i said that the charity gets 100% of the money.

My point was clear they wont get the gate receipt from a charity game. If you agree with that i'm not sure what your point is.
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Your point is you think that they won’t get any gate receipt money from the Community Shield game.

You (and I) can’t prove that one way or the other.

I believe it is possible, you don’t.

Not much else to say, is there?
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
Your point is you think that they won’t get any gate receipt money from the Community Shield game.

You (and I) can’t prove that one way or the other.

I believe it is possible, you don’t.

Not much else to say, is there?
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No that wasn't my point at all - It was they wouldnt get ALL of the gate receipt.

.....still waiting on where i said 100% went to charity.
 
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