CONCHIES

[Ally.P]

Just watched a programme on chonscientious objectors in the first world war.

So my question is..

were they cowards or were they brave????

I go with brave.

 

[Pearcey]

Just watched a programme on chonscientious objectors in the first world war.

So my question is..

were they cowards or were they brave????

I go with brave.

There's no H in Conscientious...

And yes I agree.

And before you ask... I can't sleep.

 

[paddystyle]

tough question,sometimes the most cowardly acts are the bravest,saying that though,could any one really object to the aims of both world wars,vietnam,iraq,afganistan yes,but not the world wars,so cowards for me

 

[Ally.P]

Just watched a programme on chonscientious objectors in the first world war.

So my question is..

were they cowards or were they brave????

I go with brave.

There's no H in Conscientious...

And yes I agree.

And before you ask... I can't sleep.

;-p

 

[maineman]

brave

 

[Corky]

Either way they were not stupid.

 

[mackenzie]

Conchies had a hard time of it.

However, the lads that DID go had a harder time. And the "deserters" particularly so.

Everything surrounding that stupid war makes me mad with anger.

 

[fournineteen]

In 1914 the only mass media was the national press largely echoing the establishment view of King,Country and Empire. Therefore those who could see through the bullshit and refuse to fight despite the hostility they encountered from almost all and sundry, were braver men than I could ever be.

WW2 - fighting a regime of genocidal psychopaths would have got me signing on the dotted line.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

WW2 - fighting a regime of genocidal psychopaths would have got me signing on the dotted line

but you wouldn't have known.

 

[fournineteen]

I think Adolf's intentions were pretty clear once he'd written Mein Kampf.
Using the Spanish civil war as a dry run for what he did to Austria and Czechoslovakia in 1938 was pretty well documented if you cared to take notice of it.

 

[Corky]

I think Adolf's intentions were pretty clear once he'd written Mein Kampf.
Using the Spanish civil war as a dry run for what he did to Austria and Czechoslovakia in 1938 was pretty well documented if you cared to take notice of it.

That is hindsight to be fair and genocide is not mentioned in the book explicitly. I doubt the common man knew of its content.

 

[Swales lives]

I think Adolf's intentions were pretty clear once he'd written Mein Kampf.
Using the Spanish civil war as a dry run for what he did to Austria and Czechoslovakia in 1938 was pretty well documented if you cared to take notice of it.

That is hindsight to be fair and genocide is not mentioned in the book explicitly. I doubt the common man knew of its content.

They could have found out about Hitler at the time by simply Googling his name.

 

[GStar]

I think Adolf's intentions were pretty clear once he'd written Mein Kampf.
Using the Spanish civil war as a dry run for what he did to Austria and Czechoslovakia in 1938 was pretty well documented if you cared to take notice of it.

That is hindsight to be fair and genocide is not mentioned in the book explicitly. I doubt the common man knew of its content.

They could have found out about Hitler at the time by simply Googling his name.

Or simply adding him as a friend on Facebook! He was very liberal with his account so i was told.

 

[Newlunar]

The volunteer.

Sez I: My Country calls? Well, let it call.
I grins perlitely and declines wiv thanks.
Go, let 'em plaster every blighted wall,
'Ere's ONE they don't stampede into the ranks.
Them politicians with their greasy ways;
Them empire-grabbers -- fight for 'em? No fear!
I've seen this mess a-comin' from the days
Of Algyserious and Aggydear:
I've felt me passion rise and swell,
But . . . wot the 'ell, Bill? Wot the 'ell?

Sez I: My Country? Mine? I likes their cheek.
Me mud-bespattered by the cars they drive,
Wot makes my measly thirty bob a week,
And sweats red blood to keep meself alive!
Fight for the right to slave that they may spend,
Them in their mansions, me 'ere in my slum?
No, let 'em fight wot's something to defend:
But me, I've nothin' -- let the Kaiser come.
And so I cusses 'ard and well,
But . . . wot the 'ell, Bill? Wot the 'ell?

Sez I: If they would do the decent thing,
And shield the missis and the little 'uns,
Why, even _I_ might shout "God save the King",
And face the chances of them 'ungry guns.
But we've got three, another on the way;
It's that wot makes me snarl and set me jor:
The wife and nippers, wot of 'em, I say,
If I gets knocked out in this blasted war?
Gets proper busted by a shell,
But . . . wot the 'ell, Bill? Wot the 'ell?

Ay, wot the 'ell's the use of all this talk?
To-day some boys in blue was passin' me,
And some of 'em they 'ad no legs to walk,
And some of 'em they 'ad no eyes to see.
And -- well, I couldn't look 'em in the face,
And so I'm goin', goin' to declare
I'm under forty-one and take me place
To face the music with the bunch out there.
A fool, you say! Maybe you're right.
I'll 'ave no peace unless I fight.
I've ceased to think; I only know
I've gotta go, Bill, gotta go.

Robert Service
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Who alive today is fit to judge anyone who lived through those times?

 

[Matty]

In 1914 the only mass media was the national press largely echoing the establishment view of King,Country and Empire. Therefore those who could see through the bullshit and refuse to fight despite the hostility they encountered from almost all and sundry, were braver men than I could ever be.

Is it braver to refuse to fight, and face hostility and abuse, or agree to fight and face bullets, shells, landmines and the distinct possibility of death? Hmm, it's a tough one..........

 

[spogga]

Say what you want about Adolf but he did have one redeeming feature.

He got the Luftwaffe to bomb mould trafford