Coppers-again

[bluevengence]

thing is do the people protesting ever think they will actually change anything?
i know most of the people protesting have pointless lives and must have a fuck load of time to organise and go to these demos, then have the ignorance to chant 'what a waste of money' at the police when its them that sit on their holes claiming benefits! YCMIU
the people in government who make the decisions go to work everyday probably not even knowing a recent demo has taken place!
which begs the question.......... is it worth going to a demo, gettin nicked, getting a criminal record all over something that will never change??

Tell that to the Suffragettes

 

[Challenger1978]

Is that a no then?

I think what BB is trying to say is that the noonans were members of the UAF and dont exactly represent pillors of society. And before any one starts I am sure the EDL also have its fare share of gangsters, drug dealers etc. I watch Cops last night and I have to be honest all three sides had its thugs and hooligans. The worse were the cops.!

I didn't see all the show only the end bit with the EDL and i though the coppers were complete and total nob heads. The way that wannabe hard man pig bastard slapped the guy in the face while his hands were cuffed behind his back was well out of order.

I really don't know how they get away with it when its all recorded on camera and then broadcast for a tv show. Christ there was one a thew weeks back that i saw. There's some women yapping away on camera how great the police are and how they will catch you and you cant get away. In the background though there's a guy handcuffed and pinned to the floor by 5 coppers face down unable to do anything. While a 6th copper is round the side sticking the boot in. It was plain day as the copper was angled towards camera.

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

I never denied EDL didn't have its fair share of 'wronguns' in its rank, so you are correct there.

The point which I made and owned Bluetom over was the one you made above. So Tommy, hows that for you? pmsl.

still a no then. I gotta start making my point that way. I could say anything was vile and violent and then provide absolutely nothin to back it up!!

Have you seen the Noonans charge sheets? Violent and vile IMO....maybe you have different morals to me and most people.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

The Nolans are above that surely.

 

[bluetom]

Have you seen the Noonans charge sheets? Violent and vile IMO....maybe you have different morals to me and most people.

I haven't seen the noonans charge sheets, how did you get to see them? Doing some research the only web references to the noonans and the UAF were far-right Nazi forums, is those the sites you normally get your reliable information from and that guide your moral compass?

The UAF is made up of labour party and SWP activists, basically party hacks and hippies. The noonans were most likely members of Antifa, a group who refuse to work with UAF. Antifa are violent sure. You might need to do a little more research.

 

[brooklandsblue2.0]

Have you seen the Noonans charge sheets? Violent and vile IMO....maybe you have different morals to me and most people.

I haven't seen the noonans charge sheets, how did you get to see them? Doing some research the only web references to the noonans and the UAF were far-right Nazi forums, is those the sites you normally get your reliable information from and that guide your moral compass?

The UAF is made up of labour party and SWP activists, basically party hacks and hippies. The noonans were most likely members of Antifa, a group who refuse to work with UAF. Antifa are violent sure. You might need to do a little more research.

There is no point having this debate if you REFUSE to accept a violent faction of UAF. I accept EDL etc have some very unsavoury members but you seem blinkered.

 

[BluePurgatory]

I think what BB is trying to say is that the noonans were members of the UAF and dont exactly represent pillors of society. And before any one starts I am sure the EDL also have its fare share of gangsters, drug dealers etc. I watch Cops last night and I have to be honest all three sides had its thugs and hooligans. The worse were the cops.!

I didn't see all the show only the end bit with the EDL and i though the coppers were complete and total nob heads. The way that wannabe hard man pig bastard slapped the guy in the face while his hands were cuffed behind his back was well out of order.

I really don't know how they get away with it when its all recorded on camera and then broadcast for a tv show. Christ there was one a thew weeks back that i saw. There's some women yapping away on camera how great the police are and how they will catch you and you cant get away. In the background though there's a guy handcuffed and pinned to the floor by 5 coppers face down unable to do anything. While a 6th copper is round the side sticking the boot in. It was plain day as the copper was angled towards camera.

I was flicking channels and managed to catch all of it. It will be interesting to see how many of them are disciplined especially members of that TAU. They were openly bragging on film that they enjoy it and the way they treated some of their prisoners was nothing less than assault by using excessive force. OK the guy who swore at the copper twice after being warned deserved to be apprehended but after being hand cuff and having his feet kicked from under him because he did not want to sit on the step of the Police van was excessive. I still claim that football fans as a group are the most persecuted by these kinds of Thugs in Uniform and still think they were part responsible for the rangers riot.

 

[bluetom]

There is no point having this debate if you REFUSE to accept a violent faction of UAF. I accept EDL etc have some very unsavoury members but you seem blinkered.

no your confused. the debate IS whether there is a violent faction of the UAF.
When I REFUSE to accept a faction of the uaf is violent, thats me not agreeing with you!!

Your saying there's no point in this debate if i don't agree with you!

Id happily accept that they are violent if you could produce some evidence- so far you've produced a name, a name of a person who was heavily connected with Antifa and the AFA two anarchist groups who are ideologically opposed to the UAF and refuse to work with them.

So I am STILL waiting for the debate!! I give up.