Coronavirus (2021) thread

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NJ Blue said:
I agree that the infection numbers do seem relatively high in the uk based on our levels of vaccination compared to infection numbers in some other countries. I don’t know what the numbers of vaccinated are in the Czech Republic as mentioned earlier in the thread, but they started on their vaccinations later than in the uk. Perhaps we have waining antibody levels compared to the Czech Republic due to this, allowing for greater uk infections? One things for sure, the government have moved on now, fighting a different fire about the Afghanistan situation. In two weeks time, there will be something else that they will have to fire fight. COVID has dropped down the list of priorities now, and if and when it goes pear shaped, they will start fire fighting it again.
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I think we're at around 60% double jabbed. We are doing 12-15-year olds as well but that is only around 20-25% vaccinated.
 
KnaresboroughBlue said:
I think we're at around 60% double jabbed. We are doing 12-15-year olds as well but that is only around 20-25% vaccinated.
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Thanks. Your vaccinations started later than in the uk, so people there may well have higher levels of antibodies compared to people in the uk, especially those who were vaccinated earlier in the uk in December/January/February. Population and city density are also probably a factor. All just speculation of course :)
 
NJ Blue said:
Thanks. Your vaccinations started later than in the uk, so people there may well have higher levels of antibodies compared to people in the uk, especially those who were vaccinated earlier in the uk in December/January/February. Population and city density are also probably a factor. All just speculation of course :)
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That's an interesting theory. We didn't really get going with vaccinations until well into February.

We're a smaller country with a lot smaller population but I'm not sure how our population density compares.
 
Claytop said:
Least surprising news ever that everyone has predicted for months…

www.bbc.co.uk

Covid: New Zealand pandemic strategy in doubt amid Delta spread

The highly infectious Delta variant "does change the game", the Covid response minister says.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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No big surprise but the article is written in a misleading way to suggest the deaths were recent when the last fatality was many moths ago.

There’s no urgency to get vaccinated without sufficient cases to scare the population. That’s human nature.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Where was that? You shouldn’t have had Pfizer if you had AZ first, according to all the JVCI guidelines anyway.
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Don’t frighten me now it’s to late.
I had AZ in Jan and had a bad reaction so had all the relevant Allergy tests and that’s why they gave me Pfizer last Friday. Nothing no symptoms at all you could say it was great but everyone different
 
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Saddleworth2 said:
There is a great deal that puzzles me and troubles me in equal measure:
we are one of the most advanced vaccinated nation in the world yet our infection rate is one of the worst. How come?
our over 50's are pretty much double jabbed yet in Scotland, just last week, 180 people from that age segment were hospitalised. How come?
Dumfries and Galloway is one of the most vaccinated areas of Scotland yet just now it has one of the worst infection rates in Europe. How come?
If anyone has the answer please tell me because I am really starting to feel uneasy about the level of protection the vaccination programme is giving us. And I know that being vaccinated is supposed to cut your chance of infection by approx 70% and then even if you are infected the symptoms are reduced and the chances of hospitalisation or death are almost eliminated. You can pass on the virus if you have been vaccinated and subsequently are infected. That is what we are being told.
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The latest research in the Times last week (sorry no link) was based on 700,000 people and said that around 50 per cent of those double jabbed with AZ in the UK would still become infected with Delta, worse than the original predictions,which were based on the Alpha variant.
 
Kirkstall Blue said:
Don’t frighten me now it’s to late.
I had AZ in Jan and had a bad reaction so had all the relevant Allergy tests and that’s why they gave me Pfizer last Friday. Nothing no symptoms at all you could say it was great but everyone different
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Didn’t mean to scare you mate. Bad reaction to one would mean they gave you the other one, it’s just not something they recommend.
I think the AZ scare stories are going to have some effect though because there’s a surprising number of older, and therefore at higher risk, adults who’ve just not gone back for a second jab.
 
Having been to the game last weekend, I'll be shocked if we don't see a lot more posters coming on this thread to tell us they have COVID this week.

The concourse seemed like the ultimate breeding ground for the virus.
 
The Light Was Yellow Sir said:
Didn’t mean to scare you mate. Bad reaction to one would mean they gave you the other one, it’s just not something they recommend.
I think the AZ scare stories are going to have some effect though because there’s a surprising number of older, and therefore at higher risk, adults who’ve just not gone back for a second jab.
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Looking likely that AZ retains its efficacy longer than Pfizer based on Israeli and UK studies, and 4 months after the second jab its efficacy overtakes Pfizer's.
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roubaixtuesday said:
Anyone know if @Healdplace is OK?
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Thank you all for for the concerns. It is much appreciated.

I have had a very severe kidney infection that hit out of nowhere a week ago and has since utterly drained me to the extent I cold barely move for days.

Been on very strong antibiotics and the lab tests were such that my GP has just put me on a second type as follow up and they want to be very sure they have eliminated it fully.

I was unable to even go on line or frankly care for much of last week but for past 48 hours have started to be able to eat and drink a little. Very little tbh. And get out of bed and go outside for some air.

Managed to watch City and that was the turning point of my recovery. Well it helped anyway.

Not out of the woods or up to posting lots yet. But am starting to download the data and catch up on what has happened in the past week,

Highlight - looks very good indeed for both GM and the NW - now actually about the sixth most infected region not the most. And still only small hospital numbers up. GM numbers just a tad up on last week - though some places -such as Stockport are slightly down.

The death numbers in England have edged up only very slightly as have patients and ventilators but nothing dramatic, Could have been a lot worse. Especially given the Scottish data Ayrshire has posted.

Going to take it easy so not over posting in next couple of days as need to see how I react to the second 5 days of antibiotics that I start later.

But will try to pop on here as I can.

Thanks once again for your concerns, But hopefully on the mend now.
 
Healdplace said:
Thank you all for for the concerns. It is much appreciated.

I have had a very severe kidney infection that hit out of nowhere a week ago and has since utterly drained me to the extent I cold barely move for days.

Been on very strong antibiotics and the lab tests were such that my GP has just put me on a second type as follow up and they want to be very sure they have eliminated it fully.

I was unable to even go on line or frankly care for much of last week but for past 48 hours have started to be able to eat and drink a little. Very little tbh. And get out of bed and go outside for some air.

Managed to watch City and that was the turning point of my recovery. Well it helped anyway.

Not out of the woods or up to posting lots yet. But am starting to download the data and catch up on what has happened in the past week,

Highlight - looks very good indeed for both GM and the NW - now actually about the sixth most infected region not the most. And still only small hospital numbers up. GM numbers just a tad up on last week - though some places -such as Stockport are slightly down.

The death numbers in England have edged up only very slightly as have patients and ventilators but nothing dramatic, Could have been a lot worse. Especially given the Scottish data Ayrshire has posted.

Going to take it easy so not over posting in next couple of days as need to see how I react to the second 5 days of antibiotics that I start later.

But will try to pop on here as I can.

Thanks once again for your concerns, But hopefully on the mend now.
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Get well soon
 
Healdplace said:
Thank you all for for the concerns. It is much appreciated.

I have had a very severe kidney infection that hit out of nowhere a week ago and has since utterly drained me to the extent I cold barely move for days.

Been on very strong antibiotics and the lab tests were such that my GP has just put me on a second type as follow up and they want to be very sure they have eliminated it fully.

I was unable to even go on line or frankly care for much of last week but for past 48 hours have started to be able to eat and drink a little. Very little tbh. And get out of bed and go outside for some air.

Managed to watch City and that was the turning point of my recovery. Well it helped anyway.

Not out of the woods or up to posting lots yet. But am starting to download the data and catch up on what has happened in the past week,

Highlight - looks very good indeed for both GM and the NW - now actually about the sixth most infected region not the most. And still only small hospital numbers up. GM numbers just a tad up on last week - though some places -such as Stockport are slightly down.

The death numbers in England have edged up only very slightly as have patients and ventilators but nothing dramatic, Could have been a lot worse. Especially given the Scottish data Ayrshire has posted.

Going to take it easy so not over posting in next couple of days as need to see how I react to the second 5 days of antibiotics that I start later.

But will try to pop on here as I can.

Thanks once again for your concerns, But hopefully on the mend now.
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Glad to hear that you are on the mend. Take it easy, your health is more important than this place.
 
From today people from the UK who are fully vaccinated can visit here (Czech Republic) for tourism without the need for isolation or Covid testing. So I will get to see my daughter again in 2 weeks for the first time in a year (assuming nothing changes)!!

Wife is still stuck in Thailand until she can get her vaccinations though. So looking at probably January 2022 which will make it nearly 2 years since we last saw each other (except through Skype).
 
Healdplace said:
Thank you all for for the concerns. It is much appreciated.

I have had a very severe kidney infection that hit out of nowhere a week ago and has since utterly drained me to the extent I cold barely move for days.

Been on very strong antibiotics and the lab tests were such that my GP has just put me on a second type as follow up and they want to be very sure they have eliminated it fully.

I was unable to even go on line or frankly care for much of last week but for past 48 hours have started to be able to eat and drink a little. Very little tbh. And get out of bed and go outside for some air.

Managed to watch City and that was the turning point of my recovery. Well it helped anyway.

Not out of the woods or up to posting lots yet. But am starting to download the data and catch up on what has happened in the past week,

Highlight - looks very good indeed for both GM and the NW - now actually about the sixth most infected region not the most. And still only small hospital numbers up. GM numbers just a tad up on last week - though some places -such as Stockport are slightly down.

The death numbers in England have edged up only very slightly as have patients and ventilators but nothing dramatic, Could have been a lot worse. Especially given the Scottish data Ayrshire has posted.

Going to take it easy so not over posting in next couple of days as need to see how I react to the second 5 days of antibiotics that I start later.

But will try to pop on here as I can.

Thanks once again for your concerns, But hopefully on the mend now.
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Take care x
 
Here are the England hospital deaths over the weekend all published today as usual:


SATURDAY 75 with 17 in NW - was 61 with 10 last week & 60 with 12 wk before

Other regions:- 9 East, 11 London, 14 Midlands, 8 NE & Yorkshire, 8 South East, 8 South West

NW Trusts: 4 Liverpool, 3 Manchester, 3 Salford - 1 each in Lancaster, Mid Cheshire, Morecambe, Pennine Acute, St Helens, Warrington

By age: 20 - 39 (3). 40 - 59 (7), 60 - 79 (31), 80 PLUS (34)
 
SUNDAY 10 with 1 North West - was 16 with 1 last week & 12 with 6 week before.

Other regions: 4 East, 3 Midlands, 2 South West - others all 0

The 1 NW was in Blackpool

By age: 20 - 39 (1), 40 - 59 (4) 60 - 79 (3) 80 PLUS (2)


MONDAY 18 with 4 North West - was 7 with 1 last week & 15 with 2 week before.

Other regions: 6 East, 8 Midlands - others all 0

The 4 in NW were 2 in Salford & 1 each in Liverpool & Manchester

By age: 40 - 59 (3), 60 - 79 (8), 80 PLUS (7)
 
Healdplace said:
SUNDAY 10 with 1 North West - was 16 with 1 last week & 12 with 6 week before.

Other regions: 4 East, 3 Midlands, 2 South West - others all 0

The 1 NW was in Blackpool

By age: 20 - 39 (1), 40 - 59 (4) 60 - 79 (3) 80 PLUS (2)


MONDAY 18 with 4 North West - was 7 with 1 last week & 15 with 2 week before.

Other regions: 6 East, 8 Midlands - others all 0

The 4 in NW were 2 in Salford & 1 each in Liverpool & Manchester

By age: 40 - 59 (3), 60 - 79 (8), 80 PLUS (7)
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I've missed these stats
 
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