Coronavirus (2021) thread

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I drove through Marple Bridge the other day and saw a queue of people going into a pub.

No idea what was happening and whether they were going out to the beer garden but we were in tier 4 at that time.

It’s utter madness.
It was greater Manchester police Christmas party
 
doesn't surprise me looking at the lack of mask wearing in local shops near me in recent months, by staff and customers.
The coop is generally used by the elder people in our town who don't have transport to the bigger supermarkets about 4 miles away so they are more vunerable possibly
 
I drove through Marple Bridge the other day and saw a queue of people going into a pub.

No idea what was happening and whether they were going out to the beer garden but we were in tier 4 at that time.

It’s utter madness.
They weren’t going in the pub , they have a hatch window where they serve takeaway sandwiches & beverages .Its on the street and problem is people hang about eating there butties .
 
This sounds dangerous?

Not really dangerous, I'd say, but suboptimal as the two vaccines work very differently. It's more a case of "The best we have" option.
I'm certainly not a vaccine expert and don't know.
But my inclination is to agree with the second statement. I very much doubt it is dangerous the people who make the recommendations are experts and know their stuff. I would very much doubt there is any danger but it has not been studied and the efficacy is probably less certain.
 
As we have all heard on the news it’s spreading like wildfire in East London, a lot of family and friends now have it. Daughter works in a school that is where she got it. Luckily, she didn’t have it that bad, but other family members and her friends have it, including their children. Seems more younger children getting symptoms with this variant. Most of the people out there I know are pretty sensible when it comes to social distancing and masks etc. A lot of them don’t understand how they caught it. At least due to pressure of schools and local MP’s they are not opening schools next week. They really need to get on top of it with hospitals there unable to cope.

We've already changed our vaccine strategy. I think once the infrastructure is up and running we should target viral clusters particularly the variant clusters. Generally quarantine and testing is targeted so why not the vaccine?
 
Middle son tested positive, after alert from NHS app to test, we presume from his work. Symptomless.

Whole family now apprehensively in self isolation.
 
They weren’t going in the pub , they have a hatch window where they serve takeaway sandwiches & beverages .Its on the street and problem is people hang about eating there butties .
They genuinely looked like they were going through the front door.

I would be willing to put a large sum of money on that being the case.
 
Thread explaining how we can't possibly outrun the epidemic through vaccination alone.

We urgently need a lockdown now.

Otherwise, this is going to run through the population ahead of vaccination.

 
I'm certainly not a vaccine expert and don't know.
But my inclination is to agree with the second statement. I very much doubt it is dangerous the people who make the recommendations are experts and know their stuff. I would very much doubt there is any danger but it has not been studied and the efficacy is probably less certain.

Both work on a similar scientific basis (this is biotech for beginners level and hopefully conveys the idea while not being entirely accurate), but by different means.

It seems reasonable to believe that teaching the body to make the antibody by one approach and then giving it a refresher course on what it's doing is better than teaching it a second approach.
 
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