Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Where's the coercion?
Everyone's got a choice. Either get jabbed or don't go to optional events with large crowds.
If I had a pub or restaurant I'd ask for a Covid passport at the door. Anyone who doesn't have one would be free to go anywhere else that will have them. There might even be a business opportunity for someone to open a venue that specifically caters for morons who refuse to get jabbed where they could all catch it off each other.
Great post. I would also add that its the human right of someone not to have a moron who doesnt want to get vacinated next to them at a venue or event.

We also wont be employing people who aren't double vaccinated. Why would any company want these people working for them?
 
Human rights are rights "to which a person is inherently entitled simply because she or he is a human being," unless you've not got a vaccine passport.
Which don't include the right to inflict deadly disease on others hence the right to smoke in enclosed public spaces is no longer allowed.
 
can you imagine showsec dealing with this , the queues will be back to piccadilly gardens
Went to the cricket in Bristol the other week. Had to have COVID passport. Queues for miles outside, and was just waved in. Didn’t even look at my phone, let alone scan anything. Imagine that, with a lot more people. Gonna take some sorting. But they need to figure it out.
 
Zoe has also been at 31/33 K cases for two weeks now and I never got that - though considered people being frustrated and not using it as much might be a factor. But that is hard to follow too.

Zoe has clearly diverged from what people generally are experiencing given the number of cases, app pings etc. I've no idea why, I'd guess that those most frustrated by the circumstances are also most likely to stop reporting?

Scotland has the obvious correlation with schools, and parts of the NW had a *lot* of publicity and campaigns to get it back under control (Bolton in particular but not only) which I would speculate had an impact on behaviour and hence transmission.

I'd hesitate to say that NW is "near the peak". Nearer than most of the rest of the country, probably, but how far from the peak I certainly wouldn't like to guess. Taking figures direct from the dashboard, which I think is a bit behind your figures, Redcar and Cleveland (where, worryingly, my aged parents live) currently has the highest caseload in the country at 1267/100,000, and rising. The highest in the NW is Oldham at 713. I don't think there's any reason why cases in the NW can't at least double, based purely on what we see elsewhere.


There is now a fundamental paradox in play:

*If* people think it's all over and behave accordingly, it's likely to be really bad.

on the other hand...

*If* people think it's really bad and behave accordingly, it's likely to be OK!
 
Went to the cricket in Bristol the other week. Had to have COVID passport. Queues for miles outside, and was just waved in. Didn’t even look at my phone, let alone scan anything. Imagine that, with a lot more people. Gonna take some sorting. But they need to figure it out.
It shouldn't be that difficult to link your Covid passport on the App to a match ticket, and have a single QR code that is used at the turnstile. I suspect something like that will happen eventually.
 
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