Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Gabriel]

Is there any stats on how many people with Omicron have been hospitalised? This is the stat that’s the most important stat to find out in a month where we will be at!

I think it’s difficult to distinguish, certainly from the South African data, people who have it when hospitalised from people hospitalised because of it.

 

[BlueAnorak]

It's looking like it's a virus vaccine.
Norway that is nearly a week ahead of us. Massive spike in cases, no change in the bad numbers.

A scientist on the BBC warned today that literally everyone - unless living as a hermit - will meet someone with Omicron over the next few weeks. And most will likely catch it.

This will be no ordinary wave if that is true.

The only real hope is that it is genuinely less deadly even in the most vulnerable categories, that maybe half a million cases not 50,000 as now, on one day at the peak does not create enough hospital patients to cause the NHS big problems given all the other stuff we might see this Winter (though Omicron might actually be so virulent it suppresses them a lot hopefully) and IF this proves the terminal wave that tops up human immunity massively in one go with minimal cost to life and we end up with a dominant virus strain too successful to be out competed then we truly can live with it much as we do with flu.

A lot of big ifs there. But this is going to be a happy new year or a nightmare. We all have to hope it is the former or today may be one of the last City games you get to go to any time soon.

It is less deadly. Considerably so.

 

[BlueHammer85]

Introducing more restrictions early in 2022 would be sufficient to control the wave, the experts said, such as curbs on indoor hospitality, closure of some entertainment venues and restrictions on gathering sizes, potentially reducing hospitalisations by 53,000 and deaths by 7,600.

If no control measures are taken, it could lead to a peak in hospital admissions around twice as high as the peak seen in January 2021, with 492,000 (418,000–537,000) hospitalisations and 74,800 (63,500–82,900) deaths.

 

[tonea2003]

It's looking like it's a virus vaccine.
Norway that is nearly a week ahead of us. Massive spike in cases, no change in the bad numbers.

It is less deadly. Considerably so.

why is the modelling giving us these scary number then....scaremongering?

 

[Gabriel]

It's looking like it's a virus vaccine.
Norway that is nearly a week ahead of us. Massive spike in cases, no change in the bad numbers.

It is less deadly. Considerably so.

Appears to be and we hope that is the case, but there just isn’t enough data and not enough time has lapsed to draw a conclusion. All anyone can make in the meantime is predictions.

 

[Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese]

why is the modelling giving us these scary number then....scaremongering?

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

why is the modelling giving us these scary number then....scaremongering?

not like they ever do that so they can use up extra jabs they've got left over.

 

[BlueAnorak]

why is the modelling giving us these scary number then....scaremongering?

Infection numbers are very scary.
Fortunately the severity is much less.
The spike in cases in SA is humongous whereas the spike in hospitalisation is small and the spike in deaths - what spike?
The only issue is how it will affect 70+ year olds in the west.

 

[tonea2003]

Infections are very scary. Fortunately the severity is much less. The only issue is how it will affect 70+ year olds.

like the annual flu season then

 

[Claytop]

All that should be of interest is hospitalisations, measures shouldn’t be introduced on a case basis as if the vaccines, boosters etc are enough to keep it mild then cases are irrelevant.