Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Gaylord du Bois]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/dominic-raab-downing-street-photo-work-covid-081821293.html

 

[RobMCFC]

As I have my main residence and half of my family in South Africa, I don’t see their data and real world experience as ‘anecdotal’ bud and I read their news as much as I do the UK’s. I think that may be why I’m of a different mindset, they’re a month ahead of us on this.

It not the data from South Africa that I was saying is anecdotal. Any data from first-world health systems is good data.

My "anecdotal" comment refers to the general public who chip in an say "it's pretty mild" of "it's not as bad as people are making out". My point is that this is not enough for the government to act on. I'm sure they are taking data from around the World, including South Africa, but they have to be sure that the curve of the virus there will be the same as here. Our climate, amongst other factors, could make a difference.

 

[The blue phantom]

Which is why I imagine a lot of people just won’t bother testing themselves.

The potential to be stuck at home for 10 days over Christmas with a few cold symptoms.

I can see that happening, But could you go to a Family Xmas Dinner ( Knowing you've a good chance of having it ) with folk there in their 70's 80's or even 90's. Even if Omricon is not as serious?

 

[True_Blue69]

No one official ( science wise ) has said we'll know if its less/more deadly in days. Most said it takes months to know for sure.

but when you think in the space of 3.5 weeks, Omicron was identified, Risk assessed, Detected for sure that it has significant immune evasion and spreads far far faster. and we are starting to see results from studies saying that it seems to be infecting the Broncus rather than getting into the lungs which is good as it then doesn't go on to cause pneumonia. thats actually a hell of a lot of information very quickly.

It might not be less deadly, but if it isn't then the vaccine/natural immunity is certainly working against it. Either way we come to the same conclusion that no restrictions are required based on what we are seeing everywhere so far.

 

[Gabriel]

The bind they are all in is years of austerity and the continued stripping of capacity from the NHS and social care.

We now must all pay for that by having restrictions and lockdowns imposed on us.

It’s absolutely criminal.

We had a minister on the tv this morning imploring us to save our education system ffs by ex teacher’s volunteering to go teach again.

What the fuck is going on?

Metaphorically and literally. That’s part of the ‘grown up’ conversation that the country is going to have to have, but that’s one for the politics forum.

 

[blueinsa]

Metaphorically and literally. That’s part of the ‘grown up’ conversation that the country is going to have to have, but that’s one for the politics forum.

Agree completely

 

[Gabriel]

My "anecdotal" comment refers to the general public who chip in an say "it's pretty mild" of "it's not as bad as people are making out". My point is that this is not enough for the government to act on.

Problem with that is the danger of the government ending up way behind the public curve. It’s so transmissible and the country is so small that masses will have had it and recovered from it while the government is still urging restraint and waiting for its ‘hard data’.

 

[Eds]

The same two weeks that we were to wear masks in shops again, like a month ago?

Two weeks my arse. They’re lying scum.

Angry today, did you not get any last night? It's no big deal to wear a mask is it. Maybe you should visit my mate who spent four months in a coma and now has a choice of a lung transplant that might give him five extra years or living as he is now with, carrying oxygen around with him and he may have 10 years before his organs pack in. And before you ask he didn't drink or smoke nor was he overweight or had any underlying conditions. Just a normal bloke. It's a global pandemic that every government around the world is trying to deal with. Countries are going back into full lockdown as we speak but we won't because the government realise that everyone here will moan as they have already bought their sprouts and potatoes and it's not fair. So they will wait until Boxing Day and announce a two week lockdown.

 

[inbetween]

Booster done yesterday, Pfizer this time (AZ x2 last time). No side effects at all, just a sore arm. I had the exact same with the AZ, think I'm just being pumped with water!

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

Angry today, did you not get any last night? It's no big deal to wear a mask is it. Maybe you should visit my mate who spent four months in a coma and now has a choice of a lung transplant that might give him five extra years or living as he is now with, carrying oxygen around with him and he may have 10 years before his organs pack in. And before you ask he didn't drink or smoke nor was he overweight or had any underlying conditions. Just a normal bloke. It's a global pandemic that every government around the world is trying to deal with. Countries are going back into full lockdown as we speak but we won't because the government realise that everyone here will moan as they have already bought their sprouts and potatoes and it's not fair. So they will wait until Boxing Day and announce a two week lockdown.

Sounds like you’re the one who’s angry.

Sorry to hear about your friend obviously.

But we’re taking about strategy and trends, not anecdotes, however sad those individual stories may be.