Coronavirus (2021) thread

[Gaylord du Bois]

Filing this one under bitter agenda driven bollocks

Sour Kraut.

 

[marco]

Yeah I saw that earlier. Nearly shared it on here but thought i'd get abuse. Curious to see what that's based on though. Bit odd! Midly concerning though as apparently its come from Handelsblatt, not Bild. They'are seemingly more reliable, so would be good to have this cleared up I guess.

never stopp posting mate of the fear of abuse,you have the ignore button so fuck them off

 

[kaz7]

The vaccination programme is going really well but then the nhs are experts at it , all the gov need to do is keep giving it to them

 

[cleavers]

Yes. And sorry, that little rant wasn't aimed at you. More the efforts at keeping those youngsters positive.
Many of them are good kids and it's hard for them. I just think that gets lost sometimes.

No I realised that, you continue to try to keep them positive.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Why would they consider at all let alone consider approving a vaccine with 8% efficacy to the most vulnerable population?

What an utterly bizarre article.

Would there still be an argument for the EMA to approve it for under 65s only?

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Any article like that is going to gain traction so irrespective of whether its correct or not, regulators and scientists alike will have to respond to it.

And preferably soon.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Filing this one under bitter agenda driven bollocks

Just a follow up to this story...

 

[cleavers]

They have been saying that since the roll out began but they are adding capacity weekly. Another 32 large sites open this week so you would think that if supply was constrained then they wouldn't expand capacity.

My feeling is that for once they want to over deliver rather than promise the earth and not. I also think they don't want other European countries to know how much supply we actually have so that they can't pressure manufacturers to divert supplies to them.

You could be right, hopefully you are, I prefer for now to be cautiously optimistic, not wildly.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Filing this one under bitter agenda driven bollocks

I will speculate.

The UK information for healthcare professionals quotes:

The number of COVID-19 cases (2) in 660 participants ≥65 years old were too few to draw conclusions on efficacy

and

However, in this subpopulation, immunogenicity data are available, see below.

Summary of Product Characteristics for Vaxzevria - Last updated November 2023

www.gov.uk

In other words, the trial proved efficacy in the overall population, but the approval depends on showing equivalent immune response (antibody generation) in older subjects rather than efficacy directly.

My guess is that the very small numbers in the older age group means there is a very large confidence interval on efficacy in that age group, and the lower limit of the confidence interval is 8%. If so, it absolutely does not mean efficacy is 8%, and the MHRA view is that the demonstration of equivalent immune response is sufficient to justify temporary authorisation.

As I said, just speculation.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

The vaccination programme is going really well but then the nhs are experts at it , all the gov need to do is keep giving it to them

We've never been here before. This is way above what the NHS can handle alone. Many agencies joining forces on this including the military. I know people who are giving up their weekends to get this over the line.

Coronavirus vaccine rollout | Institute for Government

The vaccine rollout is the responsibility of the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC).

www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk