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somapop said:
Not sure what else I can do to exorcise the bastard from within...
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You can't. Stop trying. Look at the period between you getting your first inkling and symptoms, to the moment when you knew you were ok to get to the shower. Draw a big circle around that whole period.

That is now 'the event'. It's cost you mentally and physically. It's over, but you are not fit in the way you were at the start.

Recovering your strength and mental well being is the task, whilst ensuring the remaining infection and symptoms slowly lessen. You are starting at a lower point than you ever have done. And you are still fighting the disease, if not the infection.

Start with daily goals like a shower. And doing laundry. No exercise kid. Not for ages. Babying yourself mentally is also de rigeur. Cartoons and Disney films. Innocuous stuff, comedy. Some calmish music. Internet is definitely not recommended but you can't beat a bit of support online.

Make a note of what you've still got in your life that you are greatful for. If you do think about the future, things you want to be in a place to work towards - in, say, 6 months or a year, then see yourself as being fit and healthy at the centre. Your lungs and other organs and nerves are like a very old tree. They've just been blighted and chopped right back. They will regrow at a glacial pace. The calmer, more positive and gentle your recovery now, the more even and strong that growth will be from the bottom up. And therefore the stronger the tree will be in the months, and years to come. Ignore Boris or anyone else's timescale. You sound really unwell. And remember, you didn't have access to plasma treatment, COPD, vitamin injection, a spotless hospital, 2 registrars 3 consultants and 8 nurses to monitor and do everything. Or anything else.

Looking after yourself whilst ill is a tricky and draining thing. It really is. I want you to be prepared for how it can make you feel. But it's good love that you are showing yourself. Like a nurse, or your mum, if she was good with you when you were ill, or maybe a girlfriend. Easy does it. Treat yourself with kid gloves. Count the things you do and how gentle you are on yourself.

I hope you begin to feel better. No-one expects you to be running around for ages. And that is very sad. I genuinely feel very bad for you, because I've had to recover on my own from less, and I know how sad the process can be, when you sit there and think, I could do with a break from looking after this sick guy, and you know one isn't coming. Without going out, it's that much worse. Look forward to that one in a month or two. Til then, it's showers, hygeine, washing, food, and cheering yourself up, and pracitising being calm and gentle and attentive, all the way.
 
Worth remembering in all these variants/mutations that the UK is one of the few counties that conducts genome sequencing effectively (8th). Denmark in third. United States surprisingly sits at 48.

“It makes sense that it was detected first in the U.K. because they have probably the world’s best surveillance program,” Angela Rasmussen, a virologist at the Georgetown Center for Global Health Science and Security

At least we were equipped to do something.
 
i8rags said:
Yours is warped mate, maybe check every news outlet and see how they report it. I find your reply’s argumentative and confrontational. I will refer back to my post when the blatantly obvious becomes apparent, in the meantime I wish you well and stay safe and sane.
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It is more than likely that schools will be closed until at least Easter, but you said he was giving a heads up as being definite, when in fact he didn't. It was a stupid question posed to him and he gave an honest answer in that they don't know what the situation will be after half term, and that they would have to see what the data said.

Because big ears never got him to rise to his baited question, he then posed the Easter question.

I have no issue with you or anyone else taking that to believe Easter it is, but he never said that, which is what you posted and I responded to.

Anyway, let's leave it there
 
kaz7 said:
For what it is worth it the acute chest problems do go away eventually ,took about nine months and now i have asthma but it is different for everyone , you are usually fit so you have a better chance getting it over quicker than me , although my lungs were perfect before . Stop trying to rush it away , just reat and potter about , take vitamins and inhlalers will help, if you are not on one then ask your dr about them , they can really help
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Thanks Kaz.
I have inhalers but couldn’t use them as they burned my lungs (that was the intake of air rather than anything else). I’m able to again now thankfully.
Summerbuzz said:
You can't. Stop trying. Look at the period between you getting your first inkling and symptoms, to the moment when you knew you were ok to get to the shower. Draw a big circle around that whole period.

That is now 'the event'. It's cost you mentally and physically. It's over, but you are not fit in the way you were at the start.

Recovering your strength and mental well being is the task, whilst ensuring the remaining infection and symptoms slowly lessen. You are starting at a lower point than you ever have done. And you are still fighting the disease, if not the infection.

Start with daily goals like a shower. And doing laundry. No exercise kid. Not for ages. Babying yourself mentally is also de rigeur. Cartoons and Disney films. Innocuous stuff, comedy. Some calmish music. Internet is definitely not recommended but you can't beat a bit of support online.

Make a note of what you've still got in your life that you are greatful for. If you do think about the future, things you want to be in a place to work towards - in, say, 6 months or a year, then see yourself as being fit and healthy at the centre. Your lungs and other organs and nerves are like a very old tree. They've just been blighted and chopped right back. They will regrow at a glacial pace. The calmer, more positive and gentle your recovery now, the more even and strong that growth will be from the bottom up. And therefore the stronger the tree will be in the months, and years to come. Ignore Boris or anyone else's timescale. You sound really unwell. And remember, you didn't have access to plasma treatment, COPD, vitamin injection, a spotless hospital, 2 registrars 3 consultants and 8 nurses to monitor and do everything. Or anything else.

Looking after yourself whilst ill is a tricky and draining thing. It really is. I want you to be prepared for how it can make you feel. But it's good love that you are showing yourself. Like a nurse, or your mum, if she was good with you when you were ill, or maybe a girlfriend. Easy does it. Treat yourself with kid gloves. Count the things you do and how gentle you are on yourself.

I hope you begin to feel better. No-one expects you to be running around for ages. And that is very sad. I genuinely feel very bad for you, because I've had to recover on my own from less, and I know how sad the process can be, when you sit there and think, I could do with a break from looking after this sick guy, and you know one isn't coming. Without going out, it's that much worse. Look forward to that one in a month or two. Til then, it's showers, hygeine, washing, food, and cheering yourself up, and pracitising being calm and gentle and attentive, all the way.
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Thanks mate.
Good advice. I do tend to be hard on myself, but I’ve felt it this time around as it’s the first time I’ve been so ill whilst on my own.
I know over the past year or two, any moments of glumness can often be rectified by a walk in nature with my daughter’s dog or a good 15k run.
Those fixes are not available to me atm. A five min balcony walk is all I can manage.

But the shivers, high temps & migraines have all but subsided & walking feels more stable (albeit on such a short time scale).

yeah...rediscovered my love of French films bizarrely...anything that helps alleviate the solitude.

thanks mate
 
somapop said:
yeah...rediscovered my love of French films bizarrely...anything that helps alleviate the solitude.

thanks mate
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Jean De Florette & Manon De Sources sound about right...

When they taught us about mental health recovery they set really simple tasks for people, drawing something in the house, doing really easy quizzes, recognise the theme tune etc. Getting the basic habits in play and doing them well, in a gentle fashion, is where it's at.
 
General summary , Much more later.

Only two regions rose today - the South West by 12 to 1938! But the South East by 316 to 4653.

North East sub 1000 for first time in a while.

West Midlands down 501 to 3717

East by 289 to 3216

London fell by 571 to its lowest numbers in 40 days - 5720. A third of what it was 3 or 4 weeks ago.

Yorkshire down 474 to 1521.
 
North West Summary

Fell by the most today. 1045 - to 3337. Lowest in a month.

However, the fall as is recent times was higher in the big areas like Merseyside and East Lancashire than in Greater Manchester. Though that fell too.


Greater Manchester summary

GM down 291 to 1074. But its percentage of the NW score rose for the sixth consecutive day and the most in a day - a full 1% to now be 32.2% - after being 29.1 a week ago. And 28% two weeks ago.

This is not awful (GM was 53% when driving the numbers in October ahead of Merseyside). If it stays below 40 - 44 % it will be around the level it was at in much of the autumn.

Everywhere fell in GM - some better than others.

5 boroughs sub 100.

One sub 50.

Bolton the real star today. A pop score rise of just 30. And under 100 cases.
 
Summerbuzz said:
You can't. Stop trying. Look at the period between you getting your first inkling and symptoms, to the moment when you knew you were ok to get to the shower. Draw a big circle around that whole period.

That is now 'the event'. It's cost you mentally and physically. It's over, but you are not fit in the way you were at the start.

Recovering your strength and mental well being is the task, whilst ensuring the remaining infection and symptoms slowly lessen. You are starting at a lower point than you ever have done. And you are still fighting the disease, if not the infection.

Start with daily goals like a shower. And doing laundry. No exercise kid. Not for ages. Babying yourself mentally is also de rigeur. Cartoons and Disney films. Innocuous stuff, comedy. Some calmish music. Internet is definitely not recommended but you can't beat a bit of support online.

Make a note of what you've still got in your life that you are greatful for. If you do think about the future, things you want to be in a place to work towards - in, say, 6 months or a year, then see yourself as being fit and healthy at the centre. Your lungs and other organs and nerves are like a very old tree. They've just been blighted and chopped right back. They will regrow at a glacial pace. The calmer, more positive and gentle your recovery now, the more even and strong that growth will be from the bottom up. And therefore the stronger the tree will be in the months, and years to come. Ignore Boris or anyone else's timescale. You sound really unwell. And remember, you didn't have access to plasma treatment, COPD, vitamin injection, a spotless hospital, 2 registrars 3 consultants and 8 nurses to monitor and do everything. Or anything else.

Looking after yourself whilst ill is a tricky and draining thing. It really is. I want you to be prepared for how it can make you feel. But it's good love that you are showing yourself. Like a nurse, or your mum, if she was good with you when you were ill, or maybe a girlfriend. Easy does it. Treat yourself with kid gloves. Count the things you do and how gentle you are on yourself.

I hope you begin to feel better. No-one expects you to be running around for ages. And that is very sad. I genuinely feel very bad for you, because I've had to recover on my own from less, and I know how sad the process can be, when you sit there and think, I could do with a break from looking after this sick guy, and you know one isn't coming. Without going out, it's that much worse. Look forward to that one in a month or two. Til then, it's showers, hygeine, washing, food, and cheering yourself up, and pracitising being calm and gentle and attentive, all the way.
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Summerbuzz said:
You can't. Stop trying. Look at the period between you getting your first inkling and symptoms, to the moment when you knew you were ok to get to the shower. Draw a big circle around that whole period.

That is now 'the event'. It's cost you mentally and physically. It's over, but you are not fit in the way you were at the start.

Recovering your strength and mental well being is the task, whilst ensuring the remaining infection and symptoms slowly lessen. You are starting at a lower point than you ever have done. And you are still fighting the disease, if not the infection.

Start with daily goals like a shower. And doing laundry. No exercise kid. Not for ages. Babying yourself mentally is also de rigeur. Cartoons and Disney films. Innocuous stuff, comedy. Some calmish music. Internet is definitely not recommended but you can't beat a bit of support online.

Make a note of what you've still got in your life that you are greatful for. If you do think about the future, things you want to be in a place to work towards - in, say, 6 months or a year, then see yourself as being fit and healthy at the centre. Your lungs and other organs and nerves are like a very old tree. They've just been blighted and chopped right back. They will regrow at a glacial pace. The calmer, more positive and gentle your recovery now, the more even and strong that growth will be from the bottom up. And therefore the stronger the tree will be in the months, and years to come. Ignore Boris or anyone else's timescale. You sound really unwell. And remember, you didn't have access to plasma treatment, COPD, vitamin injection, a spotless hospital, 2 registrars 3 consultants and 8 nurses to monitor and do everything. Or anything else.

Looking after yourself whilst ill is a tricky and draining thing. It really is. I want you to be prepared for how it can make you feel. But it's good love that you are showing yourself. Like a nurse, or your mum, if she was good with you when you were ill, or maybe a girlfriend. Easy does it. Treat yourself with kid gloves. Count the things you do and how gentle you are on yourself.

I hope you begin to feel better. No-one expects you to be running around for ages. And that is very sad. I genuinely feel very bad for you, because I've had to recover on my own from less, and I know how sad the process can be, when you sit there and think, I could do with a break from looking after this sick guy, and you know one isn't coming. Without going out, it's that much worse. Look forward to that one in a month or two. Til then, it's showers, hygeine, washing, food, and cheering yourself up, and pracitising being calm and gentle and attentive, all the way.
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Superb advice
 
Number of new cases in the Netherlands continues to hover around the 5,000 a day mark. The latest peak was 13,000 on Dec 20th, yet despite all schools being closed, well before the U.K., and the country being in complete lockdown for a long time now, the number of new cases persists at that level and appears hard to suppress further. Vaccinations in the U.K. should help, of course, but it’s going to be neither quick nor easy driving case numbers down to a level where governments feel safe enough to ease restrictions.
 
Summerbuzz said:
Jean De Florette & Manon De Sources sound about right...

When they taught us about mental health recovery they set really simple tasks for people, drawing something in the house, doing really easy quizzes, recognise the theme tune etc. Getting the basic habits in play and doing them well, in a gentle fashion, is where it's at.
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Yeah...remember those movies.
Really enjoyed them.

Like reading, my movie watching took a dip over the past few years (for many reasons) but hope to get that all back on track this year. I’ve had to rebuild my life which often meant putting the philosophical elements to one side.

lll find something ’French’ after this potentially drab fa cup game.
That might help move my thoughts elsewhere.
Cheers.
 
feedthegoat27 said:
Very naive to think no foreign travel until 2022, unless that's what you want to happen, rather than your opinion on the travel outlook.
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Where will these people go?

I can imagine several countries may not allow visitors and those that do may require a certificate/letter of some kind. Plus, when you go these countries, they may be in lockdown, so why bother? I would also think many cannot afford to go on holiday with thousands unemployed or having lower incomes. For those who do go abroad, they may well have to quarantine when they come back.

Feck it, I will travel around the UK seeing family and put more money towards a loft extension and an electric car.
 
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