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England hospital deaths:

Tragically a 7 year old is one of todays victims along with a 102 year old.

Largest ever age spread showing just how dangerous Covid really is.

30, aged between 40 and 99, had no known underlying conditions.
 
Healdplace said:
England hospital deaths:

Tragically a 7 year old is one of todays victims along with a 102 year old.

Largest ever age spread showing just how dangerous Covid really is.

30, aged between 40 and 999, had no known underlying conditions.
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Absolutely tragic
 
Healdplace said:
England hospital deaths:

Tragically a 7 year old is one of todays victims along with a 102 year old.

Largest ever age spread showing just how dangerous Covid really is.

30, aged between 40 and 999, had no known underlying conditions.
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Christ, I’d like to think whichever person who died that made it to 999 was definitely someone with an underlying condition.
 
Ban-jani said:
Do you think the drop in deaths is immunity from the vaccine? Only two weeks ago we were still seeing huge cases but with so many of the vulnerable now vaccinated, surely that is why it’s falling?

Shame about the NW, let’s hope common sense comes through and we get some additional doses.
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Hopefully, but i think it's equally likely just to be because cases dropped very quickly too. It all went up very quickly, and it's coming down as fast. Given that we know deaths are just following a 3 week lag from the cases there's no reason for deaths not to come just as fast?

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England hospital deaths by age

0 - 19 (1) 0.1%

20 - 39 (6) 1.0%

40 - 59 (56) 8.9%

60 - 79 (253) 40.2%

80 PLUS (314) 49.8%


This is the first time I recall seeing the over 80s below 50% and we have seen this number fall percentage wise over the past couple of weeks.

Meanwhile even the 60 plus seem to be falling a bit too.

And the numbers under 60 are rising and this is the third time in the past 10 days or so they hve been 10% or so

I think cautiously we can see this as POSSIBLY a trend - but I emphasise this word.

Let me put it this way - this is what we would expect to see happening if the vaccines are working. The ones most protected already would be the first to show numbers fall.

Though possibly not quite this fast.

And, yes, having seen what Twosips says above, it is probably a bit of both and if things are dropping like this without much impact yet from the vaccines that is even better news.
 
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381,076 doses delivered yesterday in England.

Once you add the other three nations numbers then we are still bang on track to have the top four groups done by the 15th. Hopefully today to Saturday will follow the usual pattern of rising strongly.
 
It's now just about 6 weeks from Christmas, from which point everywhere was locked down - I think it's not going to be one cause, but multiple things being factors.

@Healdplace
I've missed some of this - do you have a theory on why the NW figure is so comparatively high?
 
Ban-jani said:
Do you think the drop in deaths is immunity from the vaccine? Only two weeks ago we were still seeing huge cases but with so many of the vulnerable now vaccinated, surely that is why it’s falling?

Shame about the NW, let’s hope common sense comes through and we get some additional doses.
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It takes three weeks for immunity to kick in , we are in lockdown so the cases will go down
 
kaz7 said:
It takes three weeks for immunity to kick in , we are in lockdown so the cases will go down
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I know, it also takes a few weeks for deaths to catch up with new cases, could this mean those vaccinate weeks ago are now being protected and that’s driving deaths down?
 
Northern Ireland data:

10 deaths - was 13 last week

5 hospital / 5 care home

412 cases - was 592 last week

4% positivity on same measures used elsewhere

671 patients - was 768 last week

63 ventilated - was 57 last week (surprising increase here given patient drop)

Care home outbreaks 99 - down from 127 last week.

Weekly 7 day total cases 3205 - was 4066 last week. Was above 11.000 just after Christmas.
 
So deaths without non hospital from England are: 728

3 wks v 2 wks v last wk v Today = 1018 v 945 v 1061 v 728 today
 
Back over 20 K cases sadly to 20, 634 (up 1432)

Was 28, 680 last Thursday.

But that tends to happen and it falls over the weekend

The day to day increase last week was twice what it was this week.


And 778, 898 tests! Huge numbers. Way up on past two days.
 
Healdplace said:
Back over 20 K cases sadly to 20, 634 (up 1432)

Was 28, 680 last Thursday.

But that tends to happen and it falls over the weekend

The day to day increase last week was twice what it was this week.
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Its odd they way they count cases but it does tend to rise at the end of each week as you clearly state.
 
Healdplace said:
Back over 20 K cases sadly to 20, 634 (up 1432)

Was 28, 680 last Thursday.

But that tends to happen and it falls over the weekend

The day to day increase last week was twice what it was this week.


And 778, 898 tests! Huge numbers. Way up on past two days.
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800k tests done. Possibly the mass testing for variants contributing to the numbers.
 
Marvin said:
800k tests done. Possibly the mass testing for variants contributing to the numbers.
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The lateral flow tests are over 300,000 in England alone.

Makes it hard to work out a meaningful positivity number

Same reason in N Ireland the numbers per person or per test are massively different.
 
Healdplace said:
915 all settings deaths.

So 187 out of hospital in England. That is well down on past weeks when in mid week at has been between 400 and 600 added from places such as care homes.
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Would lockdown affect care home cases and deaths and cases or are we seeing the early affects of the vaccine working?
 
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