Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Tonster said:
Not suggesting we do too much too fast. There’s a roadmap out of lockdown based on checks and data at every step. It’s pretty much certain this is a virus we will have to live with long term so for how long do we stay at home and not return to some normality?
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I suspect we will have much more normality more quickly than a lot of the world. And many will be envying our freedom this Summer not staring at the hundreds still in ICUs. A global pandemic means some places are out of it before others. And how those places then open up to the rest of the world dictates whether they stay out or end up going back to restrictions.

I think we have learnt the lesson of not opening up too much, too fast. And know this time when we do open up it has to be for good as it is unlikely that another lockdown would be as well observed.

We have seen it being stressed that this time the easing will be permanent.

So we are almost sure to emerge more slowly than most want from this lockdown as the best way to avoid having to enter another because of doing too much too soon.

As I have said according to the saying - slowly slowly catchee monkey - and here not going slowly slowly will catchee covid.
 
Healdplace said:
I suspect we will have much more normality more quickly than a lot of the world. And many will be envying our freedom this Summer not staring at the hundreds still in ICUs. A global pandemic means some places are out of it before others. And how those places then open up to the rest of the world dictates whether they stay out or end up going back to restrictions.

I think we have learnt the lesson of not opening up too much, too fast. And know this time when we do open up it has to be for good as it is unlikely that another lockdown would be as well observed.

We have seen it being stressed that this time the easing will be permanent.

So we are almost sure to emerge more slowly than most want from this lockdown as the best way to avoid having to enter another because of doing too much too soon.

As I have said according to the saying - slowly slowly catchee monkey - and here not going slowly slowly will catchee covid.
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I’m pretty sure we will look much better than a lot of other countries this summer but EU will gradually get there as supply increases. May 17th is the date set for international travel in our roadmap. But that will not be a free for all and will depend on vaccination status etc and also the Covid state of the individual countries. Travel corridors I’m sure will make a reappearance. No reason to suggest with appropriate caution this can’t be done safely. Nothing is risk free.
 
Wales vaccination update:

1, 231, 830 first doses given - 27, 729 today - was 23, 946 yesterday & 27, 542 last week

329, 530 second doses given - 10, 554 today - was 14, 565 yesterday & 12, 669 last week

Pretty consistent here around 38 to 40 K each time.
 
Zoe App today predicts 4362 cases - down 54 on yesterday's 4416 (which turned out to really be 4802)

Its symptoms check shows another fall in the number in UK predicted to have Covid right now in UK.

It was 78, 389 yesterday and is today down by 2175 to 76, 214
 
Tonster said:
I’m pretty sure we will look much better than a lot of other countries this summer but EU will gradually get there as supply increases. May 17th is the date set for international travel in our roadmap. But that will not be a free for all and will depend on vaccination status etc and also the Covid state of the individual countries. Travel corridors I’m sure will make a reappearance. No reason to suggest with appropriate caution this can’t be done safely. Nothing is risk free.
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A report by PHE showed that travel corridors last summer brought concerning levels of infections back to the UK.

news.sky.com

COVID-19: Greece travel corridor brought in 'a large amount of virus', say UK experts

The study is likely to reignite the debate about travel corridors - expected to return in some form as restrictions are eased.
news.sky.com news.sky.com

I am quite happy to holiday in the UK, there are some beautiful places to visit in the UK from Cornwall to Scotland with some outstanding scenery. We are in a pandemic, and we need to tailor our expectations accordingly. We look at Australia and New Zealand with envy. Their people are able to live their lives with much less restrictions than us (I know that Australia have had lockdowns), but I don’t really understand the desire to get on a plane and travel to another country in a pandemic. If we could live an relatively unrestricted life within the UK, being able to go out, see friends and relatives for a period of time until the situation becomes better in the rest of the world, it has to be better than the current situation surely?
 
However, the truly big Zoe news is that after a week of falls for the North West it now places North West as second lowest in the UK - ahead of the South West and only behind the South East.

I have never seen the North West better placed than this on Zoe - with lower numbers than all three other home nations and five of the seven England regions.

Perhaps that low score last night really was not a fluke. I guess we will see over coming days.
 
Healdplace said:
However, the truly big Zoe news is that after a week of falls for the North West it now places North West as second lowest in the UK - ahead of the South West and only behind the South East.

I have never seen the North West better placed than this on Zoe - with lower numbers than all three other home nations and five of the seven England regions.

Perhaps that low score last night really was not a fluke. I guess we will see over coming days.
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That's bloody great news long may it continue
 
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