Coronavirus (2021) thread

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Healdplace said:
I agree. At my age when each year passes faster than the last and you know but try not to think that is one year less to go this kind of lockdown screws with your mind.

I can hardly believe I have been beyond my garden only 3 times in 14 months - for three vaccinations.

And am already thinking this is not going to be easy to return to normality. It is scary when it should be exciting.

I think that is why I agreed to take on that book writing job and do that TV show - after I have purposefully avoided the media for many years after it being something I did every other day until my early 50s. Not just in the UK. All over the world. To lecture at US universities and casinos in Australia and on the stage of the Windmill Theatre for a TV show.

I felt I had to push myself just a bit with these toe in the water challenges because regaining normality will likely be easy for some and much harder for others. I do think there will be a boom in analysis and on line gurus telling you how to embrace normality again.
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I think entering back into 'normality' will be just as strange as entering the whole process last year.
It's been a strange year or so for me anyway (and no doubt everyone has had different experiences).
Just before the pandemic I had to adjust to life on my own having left the previous life living as a family unit in a house.
So in some ways this CV19 experience has been skewed for me anyway. I was busy retraining myself up during last year so hid a lot of the madness behind 'getting my head down'.

Maybe some of the reintegration into normality as led by behaviours scientists is as much about testing the water for the virus as much as our own psychology in getting back to the society we 'once' knew (tad dramatic).
Not sure of the time frames of accepting new normals, but there's plenty of studies on these things.

Wondering how long our parents/grandparents took to find their feet again after WW2, but different circumstances in some respects.

Saw a clip of a very busy Wembley during a past FA cup final earlier and it jolted me somewhat.
 
somapop said:
I think entering back into 'normality' will be just as strange as entering the whole process last year.
It's been a strange year or so for me anyway (and no doubt everyone has had different experiences).
Just before the pandemic I had to adjust to life on my own having left the previous life living as a family unit in a house.
So in some ways this CV19 experience has been skewed for me anyway. I was busy retraining myself up during last year so hid a lot of the madness behind 'getting my head down'.

Maybe some of the reintegration into normality as led by behaviours scientists is as much about testing the water for the virus as much as our own psychology in getting back to the society we 'once' knew (tad dramatic).
Not sure of the time frames of accepting new normals, but there's plenty of studies on these things.

Wondering how long our parents/grandparents took to find their feet again after WW2, but different circumstances in some respects.

Saw a clip of a very busy Wembley during a past FA cup final earlier and it jolted me somewhat.
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Fabulous watching a busy Wembley though isn‘t it? Although the Carabao cup final wasn’t ’normal’ it was a huge step towards it and it was easily one of the best days I‘ve had in the last 15 months.
 
somapop said:
I think entering back into 'normality' will be just as strange as entering the whole process last year.
It's been a strange year or so for me anyway (and no doubt everyone has had different experiences).
Just before the pandemic I had to adjust to life on my own having left the previous life living as a family unit in a house.
So in some ways this CV19 experience has been skewed for me anyway. I was busy retraining myself up during last year so hid a lot of the madness behind 'getting my head down'.

Maybe some of the reintegration into normality as led by behaviours scientists is as much about testing the water for the virus as much as our own psychology in getting back to the society we 'once' knew (tad dramatic).
Not sure of the time frames of accepting new normals, but there's plenty of studies on these things.

Wondering how long our parents/grandparents took to find their feet again after WW2, but different circumstances in some respects.

Saw a clip of a very busy Wembley during a past FA cup final earlier and it jolted me somewhat.
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Would agree with that; now that I am double jabbed I am more relaxed when going to do the weekly shop at Asda even ventured out on a drive into Cheshire this week and called at M&S at Handforth Dean.
Also less bothered about passing people when out on our local walks.
However called at our local garden centre yesterday and stopped to have a drink in the outside area they had set up but was very wary about people walking near me.

So it's still one step at a time for me.
 
somapop said:
Wondering how long our parents/grandparents took to find their feet again after WW2, but different circumstances in some respects.
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Thank you for the whole post and I agree.

But I am old enough (just!) to recall both rationing as a very young child (still occurring several years after the war) and the bombed out buildings and the air raid shelters and sirens still tested (expecting World War Two the sequel).

I was too young to understand at the time but never forgot the cod liver oil given daily in school - just how horrible it was not why it was being given.

And - so - yes it will feel a bit like that. But it will be transitory and once over the initial hump life will doubtless carry a new vivacity. The Roaring Twenties followed WW 1 and the Spanish Flu. After WW 2 the late fifties and early sixties created the pop age. Where will the 20s take us? Somewhere new but equally life affirming I suspect.

And at least you younger ones will have your own version of 'what did you do in the war?' from kids and grandkids after they learn about it in school and rely on you to give first hand experience of ancient history.
 
SWP's back said:
You’re new to genetic mutation of viruses I take it.

It’s not a question of being “scared”, it’s a question of pure genetic evolution. At present covid is more virulent than a cold or flu and about 10x as lethal as flu. But as of yet, it’s currently less lethal than the 1918-20 pandemic (that killed around 50m worldwide and 18-20m in india alone. As. Of. Yet. But with the petri dishes that are India, Brazil et al, there’s no certainty it stays that way. So obviously the medical community and geneticists are absolutely right to urge caution. That’s not about scaring people. It’s about trying to eradicate it as best and as fast as possible.

It’s weird though, it’s never the posters or people I consider learned that seem to think covid is a scam or some sort of social population psyops.
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It isn't a scam your right however I can't wait for the post pandemic review next year.
Lots of stuff I want answers on.
 
Regional Cases Today



Cases show up or down on yesterday and the v number is versus 7 days ago.



SOUTH

East down 21 to 161 v 142

London down 105 to 252 v 253 - biggest fall of the day but just 1 down week to week.

South East down 26 to 163 v 215

South West down 34 to 49 v 63 - best in England today and lowest score by any region in 2021 and much of 2020







MIDLANDS

East UP 20 to 159 v 199 - still falling wk to wk

West down 24 to 122 v 109



NORTH

North East up 9 to 83 v 87- up slightly


Yorkshire down 23 to 268 v 305 (Down and still doing better than the North West and down wk to wk too)




NORTH WEST DOWN 56 to 344 v 329. - Decent fall and up much less week to week than was. But still highest region around 80/90 above both Yorkshire and London.


GREATER MANCHESTER

Down 63 day to day to 199 - From NW fall of 56 - so more than all of it. Bolton fell 56 of that alone.

Up 2 week to week. Again under par as NW rose by 15 over the week.

Better day for both the NW and GM.
 
Greater Manchester Cases


199 cases today - down 63 on day. From 344 North West cases.




Bolton - even better fall today - of 56 - to 79 - up just 11 on last week - lowest in some time. Pop score rise today was 27 down a lot too. So hopeful signs continue.


Manchester up 9 to 33. Exactly the same as last week. Gap between Bolton and Manchester at 46 lowest in 7 days

Rochdale up 2 on 18 - which is the same week to week.

Salford up 8 to 14 which is down 1 on last week.

Trafford up 3 to 13 - also up 3 wk to wk.

Oldham up 7 to 11 - which is up 1 wk to wk.

Bury down 7 to also be on 11 which is up 8 wk to wk. Bury still struggling a bit.


Which means three boroughs are in single figures today:-


Wigan down 9 on day to 9 - which is down 5 wk to wk.

Stockport down 9 on 6 which is its best in a some days and down 7 on last week.


But the new number 1 today is:-


Tameside is down 11 on just 5 which is down 8 wk to wk.




Weekly total cases:-


Bolton tops 800 weekly cases and keeps climbing but better day means very slowly now.

Bury - after the switchover losing lead to Oldham still struggling a little compared with as it was.

Back to four over 100 as Stockport numbers took it JUST below again - happily.

Oldham 47. Bury 67, Salford 68, Trafford 76, Tameside 77, Stockport 99, Rochdale 101, Wigan 113, Manchester 255, Bolton 822.
 
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