Coronavirus (2021) thread

[BLUEMATT23]

Yes, people don't just need to travel abroad for holidays, some families haven't met up for 2 years or more now.

I do wonder whether any of this is due to the Green agenda now to be honest.

 

[Healdplace]

Northern Ireland Data

0 deaths -was 0 last week

133 cases - was 87 last week

7.5% positivity - was 7.6% last week

7 day weekly cases total 1064 - was 906 Friday and 694 last week

First over 1000 in some time

3 care home outbreaks - same as Friday - was 2 last week

16 patients - was 16 Friday - but was 15 last week

0 ventilated - was 0 Friday and last week


Cases by age range in the past 7 days

0 - 19 (385) 36.2%

20 - 39 (438) 41.2%

40 - 59 (199) 18.7%

60 - 79 (38) 3.6%

80 PLUS (4) 0.3%


So the numbers are much the same even with rising cases. Under 4% over 60 and 77.4% under 40.

Over a third of all cases children or teenagers.

This is very much a pandemic of the young - and the as yet unvaccinated it would seem.

 

[splinter]

So boris says further lockdowns could happen in winter..its going to kick off

 

[grunge]

Prof Francois Balloux, Professor of Computational Systems Biology and Director, UCL Genetics Institute, UCL, said:

“The latest PHE report largely confirmed and strengthened earlier evidence about the behaviour of the B.1.617.2 (delta) lineage. There have been over 33,000 cases of the delta variant reported in the UK over the last week, and the variant now represents over 90% of all cases of COVID-19 in the UK. Transmissibility of the delta variant in the community is estimated to be ~41% higher than for B.1.1.7 (alpha), with estimates for within-household transmission possibly even higher.

“People infected with the delta variant are more likely to be hospitalised. Though, hospitalisations and deaths remain low considering case numbers. The case fatality rate is currently down to 0.1% thanks the high vaccine coverage among the most vulnerable. Risk of infection by those vaccinated with one dose looks increased for the delta variant, but protection provided by two doses of vaccine seems largely unaffected. Despite this, there are some breakthrough cases and there have been some deaths in doubly vaccinated people.

when was that quote from? not seen it in his twitter feed. and He's only looking at those vaccinated then?

real world picture isn't as clean as that. for now.

 

[Healdplace]

So the total deaths is not hard to work out. Zero. Unless something from out of hospital in England is added.

It was 3 last week - 1 the week before and 1 the week before that.

If it is zero the media will hopefully set in context of Sunday data and no registrations.

In contrast the 3 nations cases with England to come are the biggest in weeks - 1867

It was 1095 last week - so nearly doubled. If England follow suit it will not be pretty.

It was 780 the week before that.

 

[wolfie1988]

We need to do more testing not less. Particularly we need to sequence it, particularly abroad, and identify risks like India earlier.

A epidemiologist was on the tele earlier saying people need to get tested if they have a headache, runny nose or sore throat. Even if they think that it could be hayfever.

I'm sorry, that is absolutely potty.

 

[Keith Moncrieff]

So boris says further lockdowns could happen in winter..its going to kick off

And who’s going to pay furlough? They can fuck right off, not having another winter like the last!

 

[Healdplace]

5 All settings deaths (all out of hospital England)

10, 633 cases - up 2891 on last Monday

Pillar 1 & 2 tests 1, 133, 404 v last week for the fewer cases 1 039, 248

Yesterdays big fall came from just 572, 689 tests - half today.

And Saturdays 773, 454.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

And who’s going to pay furlough? They can fuck right off, not having another winter like the last!

There making it up as they go along mate. People have complied for 15 months, took the jabs and been patient.
Maybe the vaccines are not the silver bullet we were promised? They know something we don't - yet.
Fucking clueless

 

[grunge]

A epidemiologist was on the tele earlier saying people need to get tested if they have a headache, runny nose or sore throat. Even if they think that it could be hayfever.

I'm sorry, that is absolutely potty.

Why? if you test and you know you have it you can control it help slow it down, if you just think its hayfever and go on about your lives you can spread it and harm/kill people.

 

[splinter]

There making it up as they go along mate. People have complied for 15 months, took the jabs and been patient.
Maybe the vaccines are not the silver bullet we were promised? They know something we don't - yet.
Fucking clueless

Most people will be double, triple jabbed..its fucking madness

 

[wolfie1988]

Why? if you test and you know you have it you can control it help slow it down, if you just think its hayfever and go on about your lives you can spread it and harm/kill people.

If the symptoms are so minor, we've got to the point where we wanted to be.

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Most people will be double, triple jabbed..its fucking madness

Were fucked mate, it's never going to end .Think lots of people are now drawing that conclusion.
Life pre covid is never returning sadly, I think intermittent lockdowns and draconian controls will become normality for the world forever. More variants and other shit will appear. People won't be able to travel, go to sports games, concerts etc.
The slightest hint of new variants and the govt will go in panic mode. Is something else happening now beyond Covid is the big question?

 

[grunge]

And who’s going to pay furlough? They can fuck right off, not having another winter like the last!

chatting to some economic types a few months back ( im not going to pretend I understood all this so I could be off here in my explanation ).

All the money the Government borrowed for Furlough is already paid off. the Government issued debt to get the money, the Bank of England bought that debt and has already cleared it using a similar method to quantitative easing.

 

[grunge]

If the symptoms are so minor, we've got to the point where we wanted to be.

for 1 person its minor, for the next person they give it too it could be bad/hospitalisation/fatal, as it has always been with the range of symptoms we have had from day one with Covid. a lot less in terms of fatal now due to vaccines but the risks are there none the less.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Were fucked mate, it's never going to end .Think lots of people are now drawing that conclusion.
Life pre covid is never returning sadly, I think intermittent lockdowns and draconian controls will become normality for the world forever. More variants and other shit will appear. People won't be able to travel, go to sports games, concerts etc.
The slightest hint of new variants and the govt will go in panic mode. Is something else happening now beyond Covid is the big question?

Ooh, is this the great reset theory?

 

[BLUEMATT23]

Ooh, is this the great reset theory?

I'm not suggesting 100% any theory mate, I'm just suggesting that something else may be happening, may be wrong, may be right.
We were told a few months ago get 2 jabs and freedom would come back ,now the narrative is being spun - AGAIN to oh well you may need a 3rd OR 4th jab. Boris said a few weeks ago no more lockdowns ever, today is again advocating / suggesting more winter lockdowns. They are fucking liars, plain and simple liars, Boris, Hancock, Gove.

We should have been opening up today and had complete freedom, ok we wait 4 weeks, the tone should be upbeat and positive from them, stop publishing figures, stop listening to SAGE. Get the country back and running yet again it's all negative from them despite the brilliant vaccine roll out. If we can't press the button now to all the months of shit we've had then when the fuck can we?
I don't get it.

 

[splinter]

Were fucked mate, it's never going to end .Think lots of people are now drawing that conclusion.
Life pre covid is never returning sadly, I think intermittent lockdowns and draconian controls will become normality for the world forever. More variants and other shit will appear. People won't be able to travel, go to sports games, concerts etc.
The slightest hint of new variants and the govt will go in panic mode. Is something else happening now beyond Covid is the big question?

I'll admit its getting weird..I'll be keeping a close eye on the next travel review next week. That could tell us a few things..

 

[Marvin]

If the symptoms are so minor, we've got to the point where we wanted to be.

The symptoms are minor when our immunity is on top but our immunity is largely based around the original Wuhan strain that no longer exists. Where we want to be is launching up-to-date vaccines.

 

[Healdplace]

If they had NOT avoided going into panic mode over India we woud likely not be in any kind of mess now. And have opened up.

Panic mode is sometimes the necessary response with this virus.

As for the world being reset. If we all act a bit more safely over Winter lockdown will not be necessary.

It saved many lives from Covid and from flu last Winter. We can minimise these by not going crazy.

But if people do go crazy then lockdown will not be a conspiracy it will be because of those saying there is a conspiracy and we should all act as we wish.

That day is not coming until we vaccinate the planet. Winter 2022 maybe.