Coronavirus (2021) thread

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UK PATIENTS AS OF TODAY:



ENGLAND 6375 SCOTLAND 771 NORTHERN IRELAND 407 WALES 331

UK TOTAL 7884

(UP 314 OVER WEEKEND)





VENTILATED UK AS OF TODAY


ENGLAND 909 SCOTLAND 71 NORTHERN IRELAND 36 WALES 47

UK TOTAL 1063


(UP 28 OVER WEEKEND)
 
True_Blue69 said:
Delaying removing restrictions until just before schools went back. Look at England in comparison, removed them at the start of summer and seen no increase at all. Proof is in the pudding.
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5000 - 6000 week to week is not no increase at all.

It is not a huge rise yet in England but it is a rise in the past week.

We will have to see where it goes from here.

But there is a difference between school rises and pub rises (though I do not recall ever referring to how pubs would drive cases up as I have very little experience of pubs to know).

The main difference being the age of those at risk in the two settings and how pub cases may become hospital cases more easily than school ones ever will.

So 1000 new cases from pub goers is likely to be more risky to the health service than 1000 in a school.
 
True_Blue69 said:
Delaying removing restrictions until just before schools went back. Look at England in comparison, removed them at the start of summer and seen no increase at all. Proof is in the pudding.
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What you've done is took a cause and assumed there is a correlation. There is no proof of anything.
 
ayrshire_blue said:
What you've done is took a cause and assumed there is a correlation. There is no proof of anything.
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There’s an awful lot of that going on and, furthermore, it has been going on since the start of this outbreak.
You’d think there would be some clear evidence of what works and what doesn’t by now as well as an understanding of the costs/benefits of any and all measures.
 
ENGLAND REGIONS


EAST FALLS BY 168 - TO 3009 V 2147 - UP 862 IN WEEK

LONDON FALLS BY 788 - TO 2853 V 2751 - UP 102 IN WEEK - Flattening off here

SOUTH EAST FALLS BY 611 TO 3796 V 3257 - UP 539 IN WEEK - STILL HIGHEST REGION AHEAD OF NORTH WEST

SOUTH WEST FALLS BY 527 TO 2608 V 2205 - UP 403 IN WEEK

EAST MIDLANDS UP BY 523 1 TO 2977 V 2145 - UP 832 IN WEEK

WEST MIDLANDS UP BY 249 TO 2902 V 2465 - UP 437 IN WEEK

NORTH EAST UP BY 365 TO 1628 V 1066 - UP 562 IN WEEK

YORKSHIRE UP 1233 TO 3614 V 2387 - UP 1227 IN WEEK

HUGE RISE IN YORKSHIRE AND UP MOST WEEK TO WEEK MATCHING THE HOSPITAL DATA OVER THE WEEKEND JUST POSTED THAT WAS BY FAR THE REASON PATIENTS ROSE SO MUCH.

YORKSHIRE IS NOW AHEAD OF NORTH WEST AND ONLY JUST BEHND THE SOUTH EAST

EXACTLY AS ZOE NUMBERS SUGGESTED OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS WHERE IT WENT SECOND BEHIND SCOTLAND


AND

NORTH WEST FALLS BY 3 TO 3459 V 2606 - UP 853 IN WEEK



GM AS A PERCENTAGE OF NORTH WEST CASES

TODAY 36.2% DOWN FROM 37.1% LAST WEEK BUT UP FROM 33.3% YESTERDAY
 
The i reporting that there will be an October firebreak if hospitalisations continue at the current rate, and let’s face it, why would they slow down? Waning immunity, schools back, more mixing indoors due to the time of the year, etc. Hopefully we can avoid a full lockdown but my gut says we’ll have one after Xmas.

inews.co.uk

Government plans October firebreak lockdown if Covid hospital admissions remain high

A senior Government scientist and Sage member has told i half-term could be extended to two weeks in late October if NHS is pushed to the brink of capacity
inews.co.uk inews.co.uk
 
GREATER MANCHESTER SCOREBOARD


MANCHESTER 201 - DOWN 22 on day & UP 40 wk to wk

Manchester Pop Score up 37 POP SCORE 15, 204 LEAD OFJUST 3 NOW AS THE HIGHEST IN GM


WIGAN 164 - UP 16 on day & UP 38 wk to wk. Pop score up 49 today - POP SCORE 14, 156


STOCKPORT 136 - UP 6 on day & UP 3 wk to wk Pop Score up 47 today . POP SCORE 11, 992 LOWEST IN GM AND JUST MANAGES TO STILL BE LAST ONE STANDING IN 11K CLUB - UNTIL TOMORROW!

SALFORD 135 - UP 61 on day & UP 28 wk to wk - Big jump from yesterday's low. Pop Score up 51. POP SCORE 14, 861


TAMESIDE 134 - UP 15 on day & UP 32 wk to wk - Pop Score up 59 - highest rise in GM today. POP SCORE 13, 296

OLDHAM 116 UP 26 on day & UP 52 wk to wk - Pop Score up 48 to be just 3 behind Manchester as highest GM pop score and its struggle with high cases at the moment suggest it may take highest Pop in GM from Manchesyer tomorrow. POP SCORE 15, 201


TRAFFORD 109 - DOWN 9 on day & UP 26 Wk to wk - up by 47 Pop Score points today - same as Stockport. So the gap to SKs lowest GM Pop Score lead stays at 58 WITH A POP SCORE OF 12, 050.


BOLTON 105 - UP 16 on day & UP 47 wk to wk - Bolton Pop Score up 36 but not best in GM today, POP SCORE 14, 429


ROCHDALE 93 - UP 6 on day & UP 26 wk to wk - Pop Score up 41 - POP SCORE 14, 685


BURY 59 - DOWN 15 on day & DOWN 6 wk to wk - best numbers in GM today and for a couple of weeks. Pop score here up 31 - lowest rise toda. POP SCORE 14, 057
 
Healdplace said:
5000 - 6000 week to week is not no increase at all.

It is not a huge rise yet in England but it is a rise in the past week.

We will have to see where it goes from here.

But there is a difference between school rises and pub rises (though I do not recall ever referring to how pubs would drive cases up as I have very little experience of pubs to know).

The main difference being the age of those at risk in the two settings and how pub cases may become hospital cases more easily than school ones ever will.

So 1000 new cases from pub goers is likely to be more risky to the health service than 1000 in a school.
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Healdplace said:
I think the rise over the whole of the Uk the past month has been about 10000, so about 2500 a week.
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GM boroughs weekly past 7 day case totals:

Bury 572, Rochdale 634, Oldham 732, Bolton 735, Trafford 844, Salford 922, Wigan 1058 , Tameside 1061, Stockport 1157, Manchester 1668


Manchester increased lead on Stockport. Bury fall. The rest up.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Good. You are following procedure then.
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No, following my own, sensible advice. No requirement according to my employer to lateral flow:


As with positive cases in any other setting, NHSTest and Trace will work with the positive case and/or their parent to identify close contacts. Contacts from a school setting will only be traced by NHS Test and Trace where the positive case and/or their parent specifically identifies the individual as being a close contact. This is likely to be a small number of individuals who would be most at risk of contracting COVID-19 due to the nature of the close contact. You may be contacted in exceptional cases to help with identifying close contacts, as currently happens in managing other infectious diseases.

Individuals are not required to self-isolate if they live in the same household as someone with COVID-19, or are a close contact of someone with COVID-19, and any of the following apply:

  • they are fully vaccinated
  • they are below the age of 18 years and 6 months
  • they have taken part in or are currently part of an approved COVID-19 vaccine trial
  • they are not able to get vaccinated for medical reasons
Instead, they will be contacted by NHS Test and Trace, informed they have been in close contact with a positive case and advised to take a PCRtest. We would encourage all individuals to take a PCR test if advised to do so.

Staff who do not need to isolate, and children and young people aged under 18 years 6 months who usually attend school, and have been identified as a close contact, should continue to attend school as normal. They do not need to wear a face covering within the school, but it is expected and recommended that these are worn when travelling on public or dedicated transport
 
GM WEEKLY POP SCORES


Remember low scores good - going down good - high scores bad - going up bad


BOROUGH // POP SCORE TODAY // POP SCORE LAST WEEK // UP OR DOWN BY LAST 7 DAYS

Also WAS 4 weeks ago (up/down in past month)

NB:- These are now versus the week when the population was readjusted so some of the 4 week old Pop scores are artificially low for the next few days on that 4 week old comparison. The other more recent data here is unaffected. And in a few days neither will the 4 week old data be.


BOLTON 255 // 244 // UP 11 WAS 169 (up 86)

OLDHAM 292 // 289 // UP 3 WAS 310 (down 18)

BURY 300 // 293 // UP 7 WAS 329 ( Down 29)

MANCHESTER 301 // 287 //UP 14 WAS 278 (up 23)

ROCHDALE 313 // 270 // UP 43 WAS 209 (Up 104)

WIGAN 319 // 280 // UP 39 WAS 161 (up 158)

SALFORD 351 // 348 // UP 3 WAS 197 (Up 154)

TRAFFORD 356 // 327 // UP 29 WAS 295 (up 61)

STOCKPORT 394 // 336 // UP 58 WAS 305 (up 89)

TAMESIDE 467 // 410 // UP 57 WAS 295 (Up 172)


Bolton retake lead at best end of this table as Oldham numbers keep on rising. Bolton likely the only one left in the 200s tomorrow.

Tameside is clearly in most trouble going up and up. But Stockport has at least stabilised and is closer to the pack behind than its neighbour borough on top of the tree.

Every single GM borough is going up week to week now though - notice.

The low numbers a month ag caused by the population redistribution have a couple more days to run and then the comparison will become ,ore accurate.
 
So much for a flu vaccine shortage.

My GP just called (at 8 pm) to ask did I want to have my jab on Saturday.

Normally I do not get mine until end of October.

I said I thought that there were delivery problems. They said they had been very lucky and been guaranteed one for Saturday so were calling in those who lived close to the surgery (I can walk there) to be sure they use them all.
 
Would love to believe New Zealand can truly 'eliminate' Covid but it seems a trick that will be all but impossible if they ever want to fully open up to the world. Because a country that has almost no immunity from T Cells etc from a population that has largely caught it will always be vulnerable to the next variant of concern arriving on its shores unless it seals off indefinitely.

Of course, if anyone can do it New Zealand would be it. A tiny island nation effectively out of reach by most other places unless you intend to be going there.

Will be interesting to see how it pans out for them and I hope her confidence is justified as any way out of this mess that is proven to work - even if unlikely to translate to most other nations on our crowded planet - will tell us useful things about what to do the next time we get something like Covid only much worse.

You can bet terrorists have already seen the way economies can be brought to their knees with a virus in a far more terrifying manner than with guns.
 
Healdplace said:
So much for a flu vaccine shortage.

My GP just called (at 8 pm) to ask did I want to have my jab on Saturday.

Normally I do not get mine until end of October.

I said I thought that there were delivery problems. They said they had been very lucky and been guaranteed one for Saturday so were calling in those who lived close to the surgery (I can walk there) to be sure they use them all.
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Having mine Friday. As shocked as you.
 
CNN reports US averaging 1500 covid deaths per day..doctors worried labor day travel could fuel another surge..not good
 
Gaylord du Bois said:
Good news from Cornwall.
www.falmouthpacket.co.uk

Coronavirus round-up September 6, 2021, cases fall significantly

The number of daily cases of coronavirus in Cornwall are continuing to drop at a significant rate.
www.falmouthpacket.co.uk www.falmouthpacket.co.uk
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SW has fallen a lot over past few days as the regional numbers earlier showed. Down from 3626 last Friday to 2608 today. But that is still 403 up on last Monday and South West in good times gets a few hundred cases and not infrequently the lowest numbers in England (sub 100 is not that rare here during periods of low activity).

Still rose to 521 patients in hospital in the region today and 67 on ventilators (up 12 just today).

Likely most of the cases are focused further north up towards Bristol.
 
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