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That's the Guardian for you.
People in every Western country have been offered vaccinations and Omicron is pretty mild compared with previous incarnations of Covid. Only the sheer volume of cases makes it a risk to the health services through staff illness.
Pretty much everyone will catch it regardless of restrictions (compare Scotland with England) so I'm not sure what benefit there is from not "Letting it rip" except for protecting the unvaccinated.
sorry they made their choice and need to isolate, like those at who can't be vaccinated or are at risk, till it is past.
Lost count of the number of times I've said this but the Guardian, along with the Mail have been by some distance the worst in terms of stoking fear to get clicks.

Absolute gutter press tactics and a serious news publication like the Guardian should be ashamed of themselves.
 
That's the Guardian for you.
People in every Western country have been offered vaccinations and Omicron is pretty mild compared with previous incarnations of Covid. Only the sheer volume of cases makes it a risk to the health services through staff illness.
Pretty much everyone will catch it regardless of restrictions (compare Scotland with England) so I'm not sure what benefit there is from not "Letting it rip" except for protecting the unvaccinated.
sorry they made their choice and need to isolate, like those at who can't be vaccinated or are at risk, till it is past.

My guess (as someone without any medical qualifications) is the 'let it rip' policy risks further mutations...

Agree about protecting the unvaccinated - wish we weren't doing so, but sadly NHS staff won't get to make the choice not to treat people based on their selfishness/idiocy.
 
Lost count of the number of times I've said this but the Guardian, along with the Mail have been by some distance the worst in terms of stoking fear to get clicks.

Absolute gutter press tactics and a serious news publication like the Guardian should be ashamed of themselves.
The Guardian is a left wing version of the Mail. It needs to generate clicks and it’s readership overwhelmingly wants to read anti Tory and anti Brexit articles so this is what they serve up. As the government is attempting not to impose lockdowns their editorial policy is to constantly promote anyone calling for them.

The Mail just operates by putting a scaremongering article up followed by another one saying there is nothing to worry about.

Both publications are shite and neither offers genuine reporting on Covid.
 
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My guess (as someone without any medical qualifications) is the 'let it rip' policy risks further mutations...

Agree about protecting the unvaccinated - wish we weren't doing so, but sadly NHS staff won't get to make the choice not to treat people based on their selfishness/idiocy.
Viruses have always mutated and in the past they’ve always mutated to a weaker strain that has ended pandemics.
 
because there's minimal commercialised propaganda for a flu jab and most normal people don't bother with it and are free to go about their day with no restrictions if they catch flu. There's no stigma attached to not having a flu jab and people are treated the same whether they've had one or not.

Extend the same courtesy to Covid boosters and there'd be less of an issue. Instead we get "everyone must get boostered" propaganda yet the triple jabbed still catch it, still transmit it, still isolate and thus far no evidence in normal people that they're any better off than someone who's double-jabbed.

So either treat it as a flu jab and target the old and vulnerable and leave everyone else be to live their lives, or stop having a dig when you want to treat it differently with little weight behind you.
Oh right - so it's all about Big Pharma then, and not helping to protect people from getting seriously ill or worse. I didn't realise Ian Brown posted on here
 
Plus, and I won't quote the Mail, but the scientists quoted in there say the difference between 2 jabs & 3 jabs is 70% v 88%, given the low level of hospitalisations vs infections and anecdotally what's been experience over Christmas in my wider peer group, the impact is negligible.
So in your previous post you said there was no evidence that a booster protected you better than just having 2 jabs. Now it's 88% vs 70%.

Make your mind up
 
Might be wrong, but weren't both Alpha and Delta more deadly than the original?
I thought Delta was similar in hospitalisations/severity but was more contagious.

I might be wrong there too.
 
So in your previous post you said there was no evidence that a booster protected you better than just having 2 jabs. Now it's 88% vs 70%.

Make your mind up
Overall, add in the much lower risk to normal people of hospitalisation and the evidence from hospital admissions that they aren't being hospitalised and the difference is evidently negligible.

70% is good enough with the other factors considered.
 
I thought Delta was similar in hospitalisations/severity but was more contagious.

I might be wrong there too.

Ha yeah, i'm not sure. Either way, am hopeful that Omicron is the weaker strain that wipes out the others and is one that we can live with.
 
Oh right - so it's all about Big Pharma then, and not helping to protect people from getting seriously ill or worse. I didn't realise Ian Brown posted on here
More basis to it than the imaginary data showing normal, double jabbed being hospitalised and dying en masse to justify a booster.
 
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