Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

[asahartford1]

I presume the meaning of "the public" was the non-football following public; both those that have no interest and those that actively dislike the game and the pantomime that they see it all as; and to be honest she's probably got a bit of a point, hasn't she?

Can you imagine when some "mums' net militant Millie" gets her teeth into the whole shambles of "project-big-shiny-cup-must-end-up-in-liVARpool*-before-2021-no-matter-the-cost-(both-in-a-financial-sense-or-otherwise)" (or whatever they're calling it now) and all the stuff that WE (the football supporting public) know becomes common knowledge to the general public who haven't been following all the latest "news" relating to this subject matter? They'll have a fcuking field day, and any sane minded person can obviously see that. In THEIR eyes, who are the greedy ones? Who do THEY think ALL the money in football goes to? The answer is the curfew breaking, drunk-driving, morally bankrupt, millionaire -(opinions fed to them by papers like the sun)- players who THEY will probably assume just need to keep their 7 figure incomes flowing in whilst the rest of us suffer financial hardship.... and when they do jump to this conclusion, and "the public" do all start venting their spleen towards the players; do you think the media in this country will jump in on behalf of the players to put the record straight, or do you think they'll just fan the flames of hatred?

Looked like you were just trying to pick an argument to me Asa.

Kinda amusing that your little straw poll of who was going to be offended was a blatantly skewed sample of "people on a football forum" as representative of "the public"s opinion, hilarious actually mate :)

You make a compelling case. Especially the bit about the "Sun". The "Sun" making the case for the public, speaking on behalf of them,that is what they do.. A big football element in the Sun though isn't there? . Perhaps they will decide that the public will need football, will improve sales, no football, does nothing for the "Sun".

It was not a straw poll I conducted. I asked karen if she was part of the public that she was speaking on behalf of. Her answer was that she wouldn't hate the players , that would was not part of that "public".
It may we'll be that the "mums" decide that football players are the devils, endangering their children. I wouldnt see why though as in two months time, many sports, hobbies, employment, may be up and running , why will "joe public" and "mums brigade" choose the footballer to wave their brollies at.

I like Karens contrubutions as a rule. I certainly was not condemning her but felt her reasoning needed to be questioned. You have defended her stoically and clarified her definition of "public" We will see in the coming month or two if the "public",
"mums, "or whoever begin to hate footballers any more than they would have a couple of months ago.

I am however chuffed that you found my post either amusing or hilarious.

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Is anyone following what is happening in UFC? If we start the league in June that's what it will look like here. Judging on what Levenshulme looked like yesterday, we are due another spike in the next few weeks and we are not even close to where Germany is, and even then I'm not sure they should be playing.

 

[stonerblue]

The fucking nonsense 'blueprint' for getting footy back i read this morning is the biggest pile of shite i've seen so far.
The desperation to start earning again is sickening.
Scrap the lot now. No promo no relegation. Start again next season.

 

[give it to gordon]

Talking to my Chelsea and Spurs neighbours yesterday both said 'give' it to liverpool but with a * next to it. All efforts should be put into how the new season starts when ever that is. None of us are interested in watching a match behind closed doors and all agreed it was wrong to start again when the numbers of deaths are high.

 

[the-ecstacy-of-eight]

You make a compelling case. Especially the bit about the "Sun". The "Sun" making the case for the public, speaking on behalf of them,that is what they do.. A big football element in the Sun though isn't there? . Perhaps they will decide that the public will need football, will improve sales, no football, does nothing for the "Sun".

It was not a straw poll I conducted. I asked karen if she was part of the public that she was speaking on behalf of. Her answer was that she wouldn't hate the players , that would was not part of that "public".
It may we'll be that the "mums" decide that football players are the devils, endangering their children. I wouldnt see why though as in two months time, many sports, hobbies, employment, may be up and running , why will "joe public" and "mums brigade" choose the footballer to wave their brollies at.

I like Karens contrubutions as a rule. I certainly was not condemning her but felt her reasoning needed to be questioned. You have defended her stoically and clarified her definition of "public" We will see in the coming month or two if the "public",
"mums, "or whoever begin to hate footballers any more than they would have a couple of months ago.

I am however chuffed that you found my post either amusing or hilarious.

Mate, I'm not sleeping so well right now and was a statistician by trade and I think the combination of those factors (and others) led to my hilarity when you were asking a number of different people on here if they would hate the players; seemed like you were trying to gauge "public" opinion using a clearly biased sample. Mathematicians are an odd lot, we find humour in the strangest of places, so try not to be too chuffed :)

...and to be honest, I was just sick and tired of reading people seemingly picking what I see as petty arguments over semantics and going round and round in circles, so I wasn't really defending her, I was just trying to point out what I assumed was obvious (to me at least) by her "the public" terminology in order to stop it developing into another crazy little "argument off-shoot" of a thread where I get my "what's happening in football now" news.

 

[asahartford1]

Mate, I'm not sleeping so well right now and was a statistician by trade and I think the combination of those factors (and others) led to my hilarity when you were asking a number of different people on here if they would hate the players; seemed like you were trying to gauge "public" opinion using a clearly biased sample. Mathematicians are an odd lot, we find humour in the strangest of places, so try not to be too chuffed :)

...and to be honest, I was just sick and tired of reading people seemingly picking what I see as petty arguments over semantics and going round and round in circles, so I wasn't really defending her, I was just trying to point out what I assumed was obvious (to me at least) by her "the public" terminology in order to stop it developing into another crazy little "argument off-shoot" of a thread where I get my "what's happening in football now" news.

Same to honest,

If the sentence had been

"Elements of the public will target their angst on the players rather than the PL, or clubs"
I would have nodded in agreement.

Hasta luego.

 

[Akpowell]

Well when the season officially end calander wise next sunday we will still be champions ;-)

So that means we've retained the trophy for a third year, is that a record ?

 

[Claytop]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52598311

‘Watford have followed Brighton and Aston Villa in publicly opposing the use of neutral venues in the Premier League's proposed Project Restart plan.’

Also this i found quite extraordinary..

‘The national lead for football policing, deputy chief constable Mark Roberts, told ITV that clubs should "get a grip" and stop complaining about neutral venues.’

 

[PannickAtTheDisco]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52598311

‘Watford have followed Brighton and Aston Villa in publicly opposing the use of neutral venues in the Premier League's proposed Project Restart plan.’

Also this i found quite extraordinary..

‘The national lead for football policing, deputy chief constable Mark Roberts, told ITV that clubs should "get a grip" and stop complaining about neutral venues.’

He used to police football matches at Old Trafford so it shouldn't surprise you.

 

[Akpowell]

The reason football (or any other sport) should be being considered right now - My brother shared this with me on FB

I am a nurse and I want to say to all my friends and family please do not clap for me tonight...you want to know why well I will tell you...today I have come out to do my shopping and I am truly saddened...I am sad that the traffic on the road is like any normal day...I am sad that so many people in the queue at the supermarket are talking about lockdown finishing next week...I am sad that social distancing seems to be all but forgotten...I am sad the general public believe this virus is all over and life can return to normal as we have hit the peak...why does all this make me sad...because we still have people in hospital we are battling to save who may have tested negative but are still displaying all the signs and symptoms of Covid-19...I am sad because I am still having to phone families and tell them their loved ones are very sick and they may need to prepare for the worst...I am sad because I'm still having to hold the hands of patients who are frightened whilst they struggle to breathe...don't be fooled people, a second wave will cripple the NHS if it comes...and also have you all forgotten 30,000 people have died from this virus including 150 NHS workers who I may not have known personally but feel like family...this is not over, it has not passed and it could come back at any moment...I beg you all to remember those who have lost their lives when you feel you have to make a non-essential journey and please,please stay at home...this may be hard, I know that I haven't had my boys at home for 5 weeks and it's painful as hell but I know they are safe...please keep each other safe and remember we will all meet again if we are sensible about this...I'm sure you would all like your friends and family to be there when lockdown ends

The reason football (or any other sport) should be being considered right now - My brother shared this with me on FB

I am a nurse and I want to say to all my friends and family please do not clap for me tonight...you want to know why well I will tell you...today I have come out to do my shopping and I am truly saddened...I am sad that the traffic on the road is like any normal day...I am sad that so many people in the queue at the supermarket are talking about lockdown finishing next week...I am sad that social distancing seems to be all but forgotten...I am sad the general public believe this virus is all over and life can return to normal as we have hit the peak...why does all this make me sad...because we still have people in hospital we are battling to save who may have tested negative but are still displaying all the signs and symptoms of Covid-19...I am sad because I am still having to phone families and tell them their loved ones are very sick and they may need to prepare for the worst...I am sad because I'm still having to hold the hands of patients who are frightened whilst they struggle to breathe...don't be fooled people, a second wave will cripple the NHS if it comes...and also have you all forgotten 30,000 people have died from this virus including 150 NHS workers who I may not have known personally but feel like family...this is not over, it has not passed and it could come back at any moment...I beg you all to remember those who have lost their lives when you feel you have to make a non-essential journey and please,please stay at home...this may be hard, I know that I haven't had my boys at home for 5 weeks and it's painful as hell but I know they are safe...please keep each other safe and remember we will all meet again if we are sensible about this...I'm sure you would all like your friends and family to be there when lockdown ends

Very well said