Coronavirus: Football Discussion Thread

Why not?
I mean the LFC athletico game caused a spike in Liverpool, Cheltenham had its impact.

I think you're missing the point. The Liverpool game had 3000 travelling from the epicenter of the virus in Spain, drinking round Liverpool amongst thousands of others then attending a game with 60k or so others. Cheltenham s even bigger. Football behind closed doors poses no risk in is current form.
 
Did they? Do you have a source? Because this was the fear people had before the matches started - but until now it does not look like there would be more muscle injuries than before.

A report about a week ago said that injuries in the Bundesliga are up 33% based on similar periods
 
I agree with a lot of what you say here, if getting the football back up and running doesn't take resources away from fighting covid then that's fine, as long as the risks are minimised for everyone involved then great, have at it.
The issue I have with it, and this is where the reality is different to your restaurant and pub analogy, is that football isn't back for all. It's back for a couple of the leagues in this country and not others. To go back to your analogy its like saying that your local can't open as it's not a big enough business but the Wetherspoons can as they have more customers and donate directly to the government.
Football clubs are businesses but they're also part of various competitions unlike pubs and restaurants. To resume playing using different rules in a league competition part way through is a joke, it makes a mockery of the phrase 'integrity of the league', it's just plain stupid.
If the rules are changed part way through a knockout cup competition it's different as each round can be seen as a seperate competition, so if cup games are played at neutral venues for one round then that's fine, as long as each team in each round plays the game in equal circumstances then that's fair. This doesn't work for leagues though. To carry on a league competition with different rules than it started with makes literally no sense, it's no longer the same competition.
They should have just given the scousers the trophy that the league has been working towards gifting them all season, take their photos to market it abroad and then come up with some kind of separate local competions for teams that felt willing and able to compete in. These could have been televised as one off competitions and the money shared out equally between the various teams, this would have helped out so many teams across all the country in all leagues and would have had an arguably bigger draw on TV than watching a stale kick about between two mid table teams with unfit and unmotivated players.
Use whatever system they fancy to work out final league placings, PPG or whatever and take that as the final league placings for relegation, promotion and European placings and call off this ridiculous abortion of a season. Its not ideal but it's probably the fairest way of doing things, teams are going to get relegated because their games aren't played in the same manner their opponents games are which is ridiculous.
This may at least give us a chance of getting next season started in some kind of organised fashion, possibly using rules that incorporate some kind of provision for this happening again if there's a second wave of illnesses.
Yes, I didn't go strong enough in the first paragraph as I do agree with you that what we have got left is a truly awful set of second rate games played under entirely different conditions and even rules which makes s mockery of the Covid 19/20 season. (And I do fear next season will be the same). So it's a big asterisk in the record books against all that is won and happens - particularly the Dippers title win, and it will be the same if we win the FA Cup or Chumps League.

I don't think resources are being denied to the NHS by allowing football behind closed doors any more than any other activity as we come out of lockdown. I agree, it would be scandalous if that happens.

My only real point is that you can't blame the big clubs for selling their inferior TV only product to keep up their turnover just like any other business would. And I think that going back to the pup analogy, it may well be the likes of Weatherspoons and Punch Taverns and Enterprise Inns that ride the storm out with their larger pubs and economies of scale whilst many smaller independents or chains go under. It would be a real shame if these pubs, just like the small football clubs, went under but you can't blame the big boys for trying to keep something going. We must just do what we can to help the small clubs and businesses survive.
 
I had heard that non league are unlikely to try to restart until late this year or even into the New Year. Disastrously for them the FA is exploring the possibility of doing away with preliminary rounds for non league clubs for the 2020/21 FA Cup competition.
 
I had heard that non league are unlikely to try to restart until late this year or even into the New Year. Disastrously for them the FA is exploring the possibility of doing away with preliminary rounds for non league clubs for the 2020/21 FA Cup competition.

The FA Cup is one game for half the teams, and if the prize pot is split up that would help. With prelims starting in August it will be difficult to see it happening. but some non-league clubs would get a bye to round one in November most likely.

League 1 and 2 ended main season now, just play offs to complete later this month.
 
So this Project Re-Start thing, exactly how does it work ? It seems to me that li'pool can restart all their home games at Klanfield. This in part is because the mayor says no one will turn up and will obey the rules re gatherings.
Everton on the other hand have to restart at a neutral venue because they are playing ergh Liverpool and everyone is worried fans will turn up.

It sounds really fair this Project Re-start I think we should do it next season as well only this time let the Rags play all their games at the swamp and all the away games at neutral venues. That way Scudamore gets his wish that a different team win the Premiership each year.
 

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