Corruption in English football?

I’m not sure if it’s ever been officially recognised but I think it’s always been a given by most people that the TV companies have an input hasn’t it?

I don’t think anybody has ever claimed it’s totally random either have they? Long before Sky TV existed, City would always play Liverpool or Everton on Boxing Day and United would play the other one. That clearly wasn’t random. We also seemed more often than not to play United in September and then again round about March I think. Again, clearly not random.

One thing that does interest me is why would Sky not want City V Liverpool as the last game? I would have thought they would absolutely want that, hoping it would be a shoot out for the title?
Never understood this.

ITV got a straight shootout between Arsenal and Scouse. Along with the drama that went with it.

Maybe it was because the dippers lost they don't want that repeating to a record TV audience?
 
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Never understood this.

ITV got a straight shootout between Arsenal and Scouse. Along with the drama that went with it.

Maybe it was because the dippers lost they don't want that repeating to a record TV audience?
That was a re-arranged game due to the break for the Hillsborough tragedy.
 
I’ve always been under the impression that fixtures are fixed to a certain extent. They look at all sorts of things to manipulate them but not in a way that should concern anyone.

For example, if the computer threw up all 7 London clubs against non-London clubs at home on the same weekend, they’d change that as the Police wouldn’t want that to happen.

And there’ll be other things that clubs across the league will all agree to when it comes to fixturing.
A few years ago I read a piece on the team that create the fixtures and like you said there are other anomalies that are thrown in.

One I remember was West Ham & Colchester can't play at home on the same day, but also as Ipswich & Colchester share the same steward pool so they can't be at home together either.
 
Never understood this.

ITV got a straight shootout between Arsenal and Scouse. Along with the drama that went with it.

Maybe it was because the dippers lost they don't want that repeating to a record TV audience?
Little bit before my time as I was very young when the arsenal v Liverpool game happened.
Were they the 2 favourites for the title at the start of the season?
 
Little bit before my time as I was very young when the arsenal v Liverpool game happened.
Were they the 2 favourites for the title at the start of the season?
Previous season Liverpool were champions and Arsenal finshed 6th (Man Utd 2nd, Forest 3rd, Everton 4th, QPR 5th)
 
I’m not sure if it’s ever been officially recognised but I think it’s always been a given by most people that the TV companies have an input hasn’t it?

I don’t think anybody has ever claimed it’s totally random either have they? Long before Sky TV existed, City would always play Liverpool or Everton on Boxing Day and United would play the other one. That clearly wasn’t random. We also seemed more often than not to play United in September and then again round about March I think. Again, clearly not random.

One thing that does interest me is why would Sky not want City V Liverpool as the last game? I would have thought they would absolutely want that, hoping it would be a shoot out for the title?
The fixture organisers take several things into account when drawing up the original list. Sky then get to change any they want.
 
Little bit before my time as I was very young when the arsenal v Liverpool game happened.
Were they the 2 favourites for the title at the start of the season?
It was serendipitous they got the match because it was moved for a cup game and couldn't be fit in the calendar. So it became a one off match the Friday after the season finished.
 
I’ve always been under the impression that fixtures are fixed to a certain extent. They look at all sorts of things to manipulate them but not in a way that should concern anyone.

For example, if the computer threw up all 7 London clubs against non-London clubs at home on the same weekend, they’d change that as the Police wouldn’t want that to happen.

And there’ll be other things that clubs across the league will all agree to when it comes to fixturing.

We’ve arguably had the easiest start to the season of anyone really and I don’t think anyone on here would suggest it’s City who are favoured.

Liverpool have played United away and Everton away (not exactly City and Spurs away but it’s still their two derbies where anything can happen) in their first half a dozen games.

United played Liverpool third game in and play Arsenal tomorrow.

Chelsea v Spurs popped up third game in.

City have played two newly promoted teams, two bottom half teams from last season and West Ham who were the highest placed team from last season we’ve faced so far and they only finished 7th… with no games against a derby rival of any kind… later on we’ve got another bottom half team from last season.

And even in a few weeks when we play Liverpool and Arsenal away in the same week - Phil Foden said of that week we had last season where we played Chelsea Paris and Liverpool away, it was that week that raised our standards and is probably the reason we won the league because we won 15 of our next 17 games off the back of it - those sort of weeks can actually be beneficial.

Are Bournemouth now not in a position where they’re not even in the bottom three and have got three really tough fixtures out of the way and can now concentrate on games where they’re more likely to pick up points?

If you look hard enough, you can attach all sorts of conspiracies to something as big as a 380 match fixture list.
I posted it because it was Martin Samuel's who said it in his column. If he says something it is usually worth listening to.
I fully agree that they are manipulated for safety and policing, Samuel's seemed to take it a step further and I would agree with him. Ensuring London teams are not all at home is different from allowing Sky/Bt to state when they want games played.
 

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