COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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According to the bbc.
London is not going into lockdown.

‘Zero percent’ chance, apparently. In my mind there is absolutely zero chance it won’t do at some point in the very near future

I’ve just popped into Wilmslow. Sainsbury’s is empty but a bar is chocker and there are loads of old folk milling about
 
Good point. @karen7 mentioned that there will be loads of people here dying in care homes whose deaths go unrecorded and COVID-19 victims. Just "normal" deaths. There's big scope for variation in how countries count the figures.
I long gave up on the infection figures ,they are not anywhere near accurate,not surprising but true
 
Very good point.

@St.Pauli support

Any news/stories on the ground in Deutschland?

I can only give you my personal view.

As a fact, we have a very good healthcare system. Right now we have the highest lab test capacity in the world,
we were using it from an early stage.
Our ICU capacity is still more than able to give best support for any critical case.
But we have 33 dead persons (just now) and then you see how difficult covid19 is managable even under good conditions.
That might change, and many hospital workers are really frightened looking some days ahead...

I think, our dark figure of cases is much lower than in other countries because of our strong diagnostics.

Concerning death counts, I would strongly recommend to not look at it like a league table. We are not proud of being in a better situation, we are very sad about conditions in many other countries. Families are devastated, every single one is a tradegy, no matter what nationality. Many friends are discussing if Germany should help in foreign covid hotspots, but we also have to prepare for the unknown wave rolling towards us. A dilemma.

When we want to know more about the mortality rate, you have to come back in 2 years and then we will have an accurate comparable number, differing from country to country.

Doing it now is too early, due to different national, even regional situations. Nobody knows how covid statistics are being handled in German, Italian, Spanish, French, Dutch, Chinese, US or UK hospitals.

Even following case numbers doesn't make much sense anymore when we can't assess the dark figure.

To be clear, if German docs would hide covid death numbers in "underlying conditions" I would be truly shocked but I have no reason to believe that. Critical cases will be tested covid+ and if they die in an ICU bed they certainly will count as covid death. Most cases won't die at home as din't make it to hospital, where the vast majority might make their last breath, or should I say the ventilator did. It's heart breaking.

I clearly see the relatively low German death figure as a consequence of a good healthcare system.
Near future will show if it's able to cope with such a pandemic.
 
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Tk maxx is closing all stores for the foreseeable future as of 5pm tonight
Quick, everyone rush to pick up all of the marked down perfume for sanitiser whilst you still can!

Most of you will do your families a favour with that hoarding, as well.
 
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