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karen7 said:
There is evidence face coverings have a "weak but positive effect" in reducing transmission of the coronavirus, Downing Street has said,A spokesman for Prime Minister Boris Johnson said ministers are still considering what guidance to issue to the public during the COVID-19 lockdown

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavi...-positive-effect-in-slowing-covid-19-11981773

I think it is more behavioural as in giving people confidence than anything else
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Weak? My arse. Wearing cloth over your face stops 99% of all droplets you produce going anywhere to infect others in airborne aerosols or onto surfaces - the later being the main method of transmission.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...sk-may-be-our-best-weapon-to-stop-coronavirus
 
worsleyweb said:
You just didn’t want them to get there did you?
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No quite the opposite, i am desperate for them to get there and I hope the figures are true.

If it is true that the figures include tests mailed out but not yet undertaken then i would have a lot more respect for them if they made it clear.

Better to say they undertook 70,000 tests and have sent out a further 50,000 than claim to have smashed the target by 20,000.

The Government are asking us to trust them and follow their policies and by and large the vast majority have, in return I expect my Government to be honest with me.

If the true figure was 70,000 then fantastic it is still a tremendous effort and should be applauded, but i can't help feeling that there was never going to be a situation where Mr Hancock was going to miss his target.
 
Bluemoon showing distinct signs of just being like the rest of mainstream media at the moment, pretty pathetic point scoring political nonsense on this thread today.

edit....apologies for the earlier poor typo of district instead of distinct, should proof read!
 
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Rammy Blue said:
Bluemoon showing district signs of just being like the rest of mainstream media at the moment, pretty pathetic point scoring political nonsense on this thread today.
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Even though they have their own thread to discuss it and slag the govt to the hearts content , they are like a virus ....

I can only assume they have nobody to argue with on the politics thread
 
abu13 said:
No quite the opposite, i am desperate for them to get there and I hope the figures are true.

If it is true that the figures include tests mailed out but not yet undertaken then i would have a lot more respect for them if they made it clear.

Better to say they undertook 70,000 tests and have sent out a further 50,000 than claim to have smashed the target by 20,000.

The Government are asking us to trust them and follow their policies and by and large the vast majority have, in return I expect my Government to be honest with me.

If the true figure was 70,000 then fantastic it is still a tremendous effort and should be applauded, but i can't help feeling that there was never going to be a situation where Mr Hancock was going to miss his target.
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To be fair that is exactly what they said he broke the numbers down into post out, drive thru etc
 
Anyway back to covid is it just me or is anyone getting sick of these companies jumping on the bandwagon and advertising their product by showing stories about staying home and doing incredible things whilst at home and advertising Their product

I watch the press briefings and try and avoid all other news, but it’s quite hard with these “positive” sickening ads.

May be I am just miserable .

thank fuck for Netflix
 
Questions

Public questions

Opening schools,will you fine parents who keep their kids away? We will not open until it is safe,then it will be normal to send the kids to school,kids don't get too affected by it,except rate occasions

Nightingale hosps,will we use them to reduce waiting lists etc? They have been designed specific to patients being ventilated,doesn't mean they are fit for purpose for other uses

govuk/ask to put questions in

Media questions

Testing going forward ? Grown capacity to test people with symptoms and get those back to work,have been doing surveys on how many people have covid etc ,results due soon,focus also on care homes,more testing at home,contact tracing
Nhs workers first then all key workers and their bosses get priority on the website

Are you counting tests sent but not received back? Waffle with lots of numbers,breakdown in the website

Follow up on the counting home tests? Counted when they get sent

High risk in deprived areas? Does appear to be right and they are looking at it,big impact on older ,men,obese,black and ethnic groups investigating still

Transmission in and by kids? If they have symptoms they can spread,kids without symptoms is still being investigated

Not getting Covid a second time? You never base it on one single study,at the moment immunity is still being investigated

See family,have a holiday late summer? Still to early to say,only lift lockdown when it is safe

Over 70's,will they get out when lockdown is lifted ? Older age group with illnesses have to shield as they are more at risk,fit ones have to stay at home as with everyone else,over 70's are in the high group for deaths

Regional variations? The curve has been mostly the same everywhere,home countries have worked together,discussions include all

Mental health of nurses ? Increasing more nurses to share the workload,helpline and measures in place to support them,more support going fowards(he needs to talk to nurses at the end of their tether now

Message to black and ethnic nursing staff who feel they have been put at risk? We recognise they are in a higher risk group,supporting them and trying to understand why they are at higher risk,being studied ,higher rates of diabetes is a complication
 
Chippy_boy said:
And your point is what exactly? You're beginning to sound like Jeremy Corbyn.

Most people would regard getting from where we were to even 50,000 in a matter of a couple of weeks is pretty fucking amazing, let alone the 100,000 which may or may not be questionable.

How about a round of applause for that.
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why have you got it political? A few days ago we had capacity and not enough patients ,now in target day we have a massive jump up to get the target and they just admitted over fifteen thousand are tests counted as they put then m in the post not actually tests done,whoever did that I would smell a massive rat
 
Saddleworth2 said:
it has fuck all to do with anyone other than the government in place and the NHS. To claim anything other than that is ludicrous.
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Do tell me what major epidemic we have had since 2010 that would have resulted in the previous epidemic plan put together in 2006 being reviewed? Politicians wouldn't have touched it, only PHE civil servants and SAGE members would have had any dealings with reviewing it.
 
karen7 said:
why have you got it political? A few days ago we had capacity and not enough patients ,now in target day we have a massive jump up to get the target and they just admitted over fifteen thousand are tests counted as they put then m in the post not actually tests done,whoever did that I would smell a massive rat
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Doesn’t matter, we are at around 100,000. Is it 90, is it 110. Did we reach it yesterday, or will it really be reached on Monday. Who cares non of it matters a jot.
What does matter is we are more or less there and in a position to use those tests to get the virus under control. What matters is how those test capabilities are now going to be used, going forward.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
it has fuck all to do with anyone other than the government in place and the NHS. To claim anything other than that is ludicrous.
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dear captain hindsight

everything is pretty much responsibility of the government in place, funding for schools , brexit , the nhs, minimum wage, PPE .....

take your pick.

it’s all political parties job to present in an election why the government is failing and how and why and why in the future that is going to be a problem.

I can tell you the amount of times any political party raised this as an issue in November / December, you know before the pandemic at the time of the election - none, zero.

so it’s easy now in May whilst we are in middle of a horrific global pandemic to say,

arrrghhhh but if only......
 
blueparrot said:
Doesn’t matter, we are at around 100,000. Is it 90, is it 110. Did we reach it yesterday, or will it really be reached on Monday. Who cares non of it matters a jot.
What does matter is we are more or less there and in a position to use those tests to get the virus under control. What matters is how those test capabilities are now going to be used, going forward.
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Agreed it is great we are finally set up on testing ,i am very proud of the country,what I don't like is the bullshit fed to us about the numbers,i feel they have chased a number and weren't ever going to concede they didn't reach that target,it was politicing testing I feel but for the other thread I expect
Just said on sky 27,000 home kits counted when leave not when they are back and not tested
 
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