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Surely we'll be doing the same.
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Think Sturgeon has already said public transport in Scotland is one of the places it will be expected (but anywhere that social distancing is difficult) , be very surprised if it isn’t part of the whole UK strategy when restrictions start being loosened.
 
grunge said:
looking into this the Beijing lab that escaped from was a biohazard level 2 lab.

the Wuhan lab is level 4( the highest level ) But it was looking like they were investigating the origin of SARS.

https://www.nature.com/news/inside-...tudy-world-s-most-dangerous-pathogens-1.21487


The Wuhan lab was created as a direct response to the SARS1 leaks.
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interesting article as I had assumed that they had already had an established network of laboratories specializing in pathogens long before 2003 for either homeland protection or bio-weapons.

Point on their cultural differences on hierarchy being incompatible with the safe running of this type of a laboratory is a good point which I hadn’t considered. Shades of the origins of this whole episode probably with the Wuhan lab being too scared to pass their best guess conclusions as the data came in higher up the chain for it to get to central office.
 
I know they’re saying it’s still possible to catch the virus through airborne particles when wearing a mask (standard issue) but harder to pass on from the wearer, but what about Hepa filter inserts? A Henry vacuum cleaner has hepa filter replacements (although these last ages).
Possible for masks (bearing in mind there’ll be an avalanche of designed/branded masks coming v soon)?
 
Rammy Blue said:
I’m still intrigued by how this virus gets transmitted.

As I mentioned at the beginning, me and 10 other guys spent 3 days with a guy who had it, one guy even sharing a room with him, not one of us caught it from him.

To add to that now, my brother who lives in Stockholm, his 16 year old daughter has COVID, not been tested to confirm, but has fever, pneumonia, horrific cough etc, so 99.9% she has it as doesn’t take a rocket scientist to confirm those symptoms. They don’t self isolate over there, as is the Swedish way, so my bro and his wife who are both in their fifties have spent the last 2 weeks in the house with her (she’s been really ill for 10 days now) and they’ve just carried on as normal like a household would with a poorly child, yet not come down with COVID - just doesn’t make sense as to why especially when the 16 year old hasn’t had the “mild” strain, she’s had full on horrific strain.

So many questions, so few true answers.
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I was thinking the same thing regarding transmission along the lines of your brother in Sweden; logic would say that if one family member came down with it then the rest would. However if this was the case then surely examples of this would be in the papers and on the tele.

I know that it isn't comparing like with like but in the swine flu epidemic in 2009 my wife caught it really bad and was in bed for about five days and needed tamiflu, my son had a fairly mild infection which kept him bed for about two days yet my daughter and I weren't affected at all
 
Marvin said:
For the first time in months I can see an end to this. We have the first drug treatment (although I'd like to see Remdesivir's activity confirmed by other trials), antigen testing is getting easier, and faster. The UK is actually recruiting contact tracing. The immunity is in the bank now, and at some point the UK is going to press the green Go button and sweep the country free of virus.

We're firmly on the downslope now, and to use Boris's analogy we're traveling through the tunnel under the peak and can see the green pastures on the other side. It makes little sense now for the UK to continue to accrue immunity. Just shift into virus clearing mode and get the job done. South Korea and China have swept hugely dense cities clear of virus and are back in some schools with little or no immunity, and factories in production. Life continues there. It should really be easier for the UK as we have significant levels of immunity now in our cities which means the virus's rate of reproduction is automatically much reduced. It was the invisible enemy back in January, but it's now perfectly feasible to have mass testing. The fear which you, I and Kun feel will slowly start to melt away.
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what are you on about immunity in the bank ? It most definitely is not
 
somapop said:
I know they’re saying it’s still possible to catch the virus through airborne particles when wearing a mask (standard issue) but harder to pass on from the wearer, but what about Hepa filter inserts? A Henry vacuum cleaner has hepa filter replacements (although these last ages).
Possible for masks (bearing in mind there’ll be an avalanche of designed/branded masks coming v soon)?
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I just don't like them in white
 
BlueAnorak said:
Good news. Blood pressure tablets don't make people more vulnerable to COVID-19.
It's only in the Mail so don't click if you dont want to read about it
https://mol.im/a/8279931
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That should reassure my nephew, he's just gone on tablets as his BP was through the roof. He reckons he had the virus a few weeks ago but 111 didn't think he merited testing despite him running a temperature and coughing his guts up.
 
karen7 said:
what are you on about immunity in the bank ? It most definitely is not
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presume he means probable immunity - a whole sequence of assumptions have been made from the outbreak of this pandemic from various bodies around the world which is why we are where we are at the moment. Having hope is very important but becomes a liability if future policies are based on the best case scenario of the predictions on the modeling. CV19 has owned most CMAs around the world from the get go but we are slowly getting on the right path to face down this virus.
 
Lockdown over here today thank fuck. We can have picnics and travel 50 kilometres. Visit family etcetera.
New Zealand have eliminated it.
Rugby team traveling here from New Zealand tomorrow.
 
worsleyweb said:
Is that a downward trend?
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The daily '24 hour' figures for hospital deaths is only an indicator as the deaths aren't for a 24 hour period. The trend is clearly down though and for me the better indicators are the numbers in hospital each day and the proportion of those in ICUs....both figures have been coming down day to day.
 
nimrod said:
Lockdown over here today thank fuck. We can have picnics and travel 50 kilometres. Visit family etcetera.
New Zealand have eliminated it.
Rugby team traveling here from New Zealand tomorrow.
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Stockport?

Apologies ...I don’t know where you are based...
 
Blue and still suffering said:
I was thinking the same thing regarding transmission along the lines of your brother in Sweden; logic would say that if one family member came down with it then the rest would. However if this was the case then surely examples of this would be in the papers and on the tele.

I know that it isn't comparing like with like but in the swine flu epidemic in 2009 my wife caught it really bad and was in bed for about five days and needed tamiflu, my son had a fairly mild infection which kept him bed for about two days yet my daughter and I weren't affected at all
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This is why the care home issue then intrigues me, as the virus seems capable of infecting practically everyone in them once it gets through the door. Hence my view that the vast majority of us have been infected to a very small degree and become asymptomatic.
 
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