COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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Haha. Been making the same point to friends on WhatsApp and when talking to the missus.

Well, as long as it keeps Tim Martin happy.
 
sky tot said:
Mainly it’s too rushed . One lad who’s 56 said “ not having summat in me that’s not been tested properly “ .Same lad has took all sorts of drugs over the years .
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I think that when Whitty was thanking the people who had been involved in the trials this evening he missed a trick by not saying something about one of the main reasons vaccines normally take so long to test is the difficulty in finding people willing to volunteer to take the experimental vaccines. I'm sure I read somewhere that it can normally take 2 or 3 years to build up enough of a sample size of numbers for trials to be effective. For the covid trials they had people throwing themselves at the chance to take it!
 
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I think that when Whitty was thanking the people who had been involved in the trials this evening he missed a trick by not saying something about one of the main reasons vaccines normally take so long to test is the difficulty in finding people willing to volunteer to take the experimental vaccines. I'm sure I read somewhere that it can normally take 2 or 3 years to build up enough of a sample size of numbers for trials to be effective. For the covid trials they had people throwing themselves at the chance to take it!
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no he mentioned that I am sure.
 
Here is the GM boroughs league table by Weekly Pop (as in Population) Score.

This measures cases over the past 7 days versus the population per 100,000 people so you can directly compare one place with another.

Because100 cases is much less good in a tiny borough like Bury than in Manchester which has three times the population. So the Pop Score rise takes that into account by rising by different levels.

So this gives a direct way to see how well each place is doing v one another or any other place in the UK.

The overall rising Pop Score goes up constantly (unless 0 cases added or they get removed in rare events and it then goes down - as occurred with the student reallocation last week). So that tells you progress across the pandemic.

The WEEKLY pop score just measures progress over the last 7 days in the same way so you can see if anywhere is going up or down or doing well or not.

The student numbers screwed that up over past 7 days and caused big ups and downs today as the first day those numbers have gone from the weekly count. So from now on the progress should be more clear.

Here are the 10 GM boroughs with Weekly Pop score across the first day of the past 5 weeks.

In order of best to worst. The lower the number the better. Anything under 400 not usually on watch.

Shows clearly the rise, plateau and fall of this wave and how each borough fared:-


TOWN /// 19 Oct /// 26 Oct /// 2 Nov /// 9 Nov /// 16 Nov /// Today


TRAFFORD 342 /// 423 ///420 ///398 /// 241 /// 173

STOCKPORT 305 /// 400 ///473 /// 356 /// 287 /// 221

TAMESIDE 401 /// 497 /// 535 /// 451 /// 451 /// 256

SALFORD 486 /// 592 /// 662 /// 529 /// 637 /// 261

MANCHESTER 496 /// 493 /// 499 /// 429 /// 932 //. 262

BOLTON 454 /// 548 /// 592 /// 508 /// 415 /// 313

WIGAN 482 /// 631 /// 708 /// 570 /// 453 /// 315

BURY 435 /// 535 /// 594 /// 558 /// 438 /// 317

ROCHDALE 509 /// 585 /// 622 /// 591 /// 535 /// 376

OLDHAM 467 /// 657 /// 746 /// 739 /// 601 /// 394
 
As you see from above no borough is now over 400 when 8 of the 10 were 5 weeks ago. And by week two all of them were.
 
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Healdplace said:
Here is the GM boroughs league table by Weekly Pop (as in Population) Score.

This measures cases over the past 7 days versus the population per 100,000 people so you can directly compare one place with another.

Because100 cases is much less good in a tiny borough like Bury than in Manchester which has three times the population. So the Pop Score rise takes that into account by rising by different levels.

So this gives a direct way to see how well each place is doing v one another or any other place in the UK.

The overall rising Pop Score goes up constantly (unless 0 cases added or they get removed in rare events and it then goes down - as occurred with the student reallocation last week). So that tells you progress across the pandemic.

The WEEKLY pop score just measures progress over the last 7 days in the same way so you can see if anywhere is going up or down or doing well or not.

The student numbers screwed that up over past 7 days and caused big ups and downs today as the first day those numbers have gone from the weekly count. So from now on the progress should be more clear.

Here are the 10 GM boroughs with Weekly Pop score across the first day of the past 5 weeks.

In order of best to worst. The lower the number the better. Anything under 400 not usually on watch.

Shows clearly the rise, plateau and fall of this wave and how each borough fared:-


TOWN /// 19 Oct /// 26 Oct /// 2 Nov /// 9 Nov /// 16 Nov /// Today


TRAFFORD 342 /// 423 ///420 ///398 /// 241 /// 173

STOCKPORT 305 /// 400 ///473 /// 356 /// 287 /// 221

TAMESIDE 401 /// 497 /// 535 /// 451 /// 451 /// 256

SALFORD 486 /// 592 /// 662 /// 529 /// 637 /// 261

MANCHESTER 496 /// 493 /// 499 /// 429 /// 932 //. 262

BOLTON 454 /// 548 /// 592 /// 508 /// 415 /// 313

WIGAN 482 /// 631 /// 708 /// 570 /// 453 /// 315

BURY 435 /// 535 /// 594 /// 558 /// 438 /// 317

ROCHDALE 509 /// 585 /// 622 /// 591 /// 535 /// 376

OLDHAM 467 /// 657 /// 746 /// 739 /// 601 /// 394
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Any chance you could add Cheshire East, there’s a lot of us living out in the sticks :-)
 
sky tot said:
I did a Straw Poll at dinner time with 9 of the lads at work “ Who will have a vaccine?” 6 said No, 3 of us said Yes ..
Ages were 2 of us in 50s . 4 in 40s , 3 in 20s.
Worrying.
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They will probably change their mind when they want to go on holiday abroad and find they aren't allowed to without a vaccination. Many countries arround the world require proof of vaccinations for yellow fever and such like these days before you are allowed to enter. Covid will be the same I imagine.
 
roubaixtuesday said:
Sorry, just saying that the vaccine is the way out of our current awful situation.

So, if they don't want to take the vaccine, are they enjoying lock down??

Just venting frustration to be honest.
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Totally agree with you . It’s very hard not to have full blown arguments.
 
Andyhinch - I cannot track everywhere. Only so many hours in the day. But will add Cheshire East from now on to reports.

Meanwhile here is the data taken straight from the Gov.UK site for Cheshire East

It only goes up to 5 days ago as it is the post case allocation of cases number that takes several days to confirm.

But it shows otherwise the day to day case numbers from the same date as the table above for GM does just for the first day of each week - those dates BOLDED IN THIS LIST correspond with the start of each week in the GM numbers - but you get the rest in between too here which I did not add as it would have been too much information for 10 boroughs.

The data shows the date, the Weekly Cases from past 7 day and the Weekly Pop alongside - as in these cases v population of Cheshire East to create a number per 100,000.

As you see it was nowhere near as impacted by rising numbers as GM but has risen slightly, plateaued and fell too. Just not as obviously as numbers are modest by GM standards.

More or less in Trafford/Stockport territory by GM standards - without ever getting dragged up to the level they did by the rest of GM during wave 2.

Still not quite back down to where Cheshire East was at the start but GM is not yet quite back where it was in August yet when numbers were similar to where Cheshire East was early/mid October.
18-11-2020744193.7
17-11-2020756196.8
16-11-2020745193.9
15-11-2020856222.8
14-11-2020896233.2
13-11-2020922240
12-11-2020962250.4
11-11-2020964250.9
10-11-2020935243.4
09-11-2020928241.6
08-11-2020876228
07-11-2020840218.7
06-11-2020844219.7
05-11-2020821213.7
04-11-2020784204.1
03-11-2020797207.5
02-11-2020792206.2
01-11-2020775201.7
31-10-2020791205.9
30-10-2020795206.9
29-10-2020815212.2
28-10-2020829215.8
27-10-2020848220.7
26-10-2020862224.4
25-10-2020848220.7
24-10-2020833216.8
23-10-2020816212.4
22-10-2020752195.8
21-10-2020736191.6
20-10-2020695180.9
19-10-2020649168.9
 
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