COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[True_Blue69]

Isn't this so bloody obvious.

And yet for weeks and weeks we had that moron Witty and his band of cretins, advising government ministers without a science o-level between them, that there was no need to wear them and no benefit in doing so. So that was the moronically stupid and wrong advice being pedalled.

And yet all the time we could see how effective mask-wearing was in Asian countries. An effective solution was right there in front of us.

The government's persistently wrong advice on something as important as this ha been a bloody bloody disgrace.

I genuinely believe that they knew all along they would be effective but didn't want to encourage the public to buy them due to shortages for key workers.

 

[SilverFox2]

The phrase ‘World-beating’ Track and Trace system worries me. This is the government who informs, almost daily, that we are being lead by ‘the beat medical advice in the world’ yet our numbers of deaths suggest that can’t be the case.

If we were in the group of countries leading the would, shouldn’t our figures be nearer South Korea, less than 500?

It's fairly obvious that most Governments lie and guilty of spin to suit their plans or political pbjectives but to carry this on current situation where many lives are being lost is a little hard to accept.
I am now at the stage where I distrust every politician from every country whatever the subject.
Perhaps I have been naive in my pre CV days and I assumed integrity came with saving lives by ruling fairly and truthfully.

 

[grunge]

this from infected folks or general population?

seroprevalence means general population.

Had to google it the other week.

seroprevalence

noun
MEDICINE

1. the level of a pathogen in a population, as measured in blood serum.

 

[grunge]

The phrase ‘World-beating’ Track and Trace system worries me. This is the government who informs, almost daily, that we are being lead by ‘the beat medical advice in the world’ yet our numbers of deaths suggest that can’t be the case.

If we were in the group of countries leading the would, shouldn’t our figures be nearer South Korea, less than 500?

World beating at what though? tracking the virus or tracking people in general?

 

[shemnel]

seroprevalence means general population.

Had to google it the other week.

thanks, but (and yes i am being picky) i just want to be sure that in this instance 'population' refers to general population at large, as opposed to target population of sample (i.e. those who have tested positive). Population definition gets confusing at stats level.

 

[quiet_riot]

not really I was talking about kids getting an education an important right

if you want to bring up taxes the NHS also be costs over 125 billion a year , where do you think that money comes from? And while we are at it, teachers wages.

Valid points, however, children aren't going back for education, the set up is completely different and curriculum has been abandoned.
It's baby sitting.

 

[twosips]

I genuinely believe that they knew all along they would be effective but didn't want to encourage the public to buy them due to shortages for key workers.

With the flipside being that there would have been less cases and less need for consistent PPE resupplying for frontline workers if they'd advised everyone to wear cotton masks early on.

 

[somapop]

I don’t know. How do you keep finding this sort of thing?

ha! No idea. I probably confused thus guy with a comedian who appears as a guest in Countdown does 10 out of 10...
Twitter for you I guess. Occasionally go off piste to see what those who may wear garish 80’s shell suits might be thinking.

 

[somapop]

Still a bit surprised the infection rates are so low but no doubt tinged with hope that a large proportion of the population have had ot (which looks like that isn’t the case).

 

[BlueAnorak]

Isn't this so bloody obvious.

And yet for weeks and weeks we had that moron Witty and his band of cretins, advising government ministers without a science o-level between them, that there was no need to wear them and no benefit in doing so. So that was the moronically stupid and wrong advice being pedalled.

And yet all the time we could see how effective mask-wearing was in Asian countries. An effective solution was right there in front of us.

The government's persistently wrong advice on something as important as this ha been a bloody bloody disgrace.

To bloody true.
And yet Whitty, Vallance and the rest of the Quatermas team are STILL peddling the line that it doesnt effect transnission much. I call that out as complete bollox.The science is now clear and the figures are fucking stark.
Immediate near universal (80%+) adoption of moderately (50%) effective masks could prevent on the order of 17–45% of projected deaths over two months of an epidemic.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117?via=ihub

Why not simply tell the truth and they didn't want the UK public grabbing all the surgical marks that were available because the NHS needed them? Most would have taken that message to heart.