COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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First human reinfected with coronavirus, study claims

Hong Kong man experienced a second infection of Covid-19 just four months after recovering from earlier sickness

www.independent.co.uk

Here's hoping this is a unique event or rare, if not its looking like the virus has mutated enough to cause reinfection.

Researchers at Hong Kong University’s department of microbiology said genetic sequencing of the virus showed a Hong Kong man was infected twice by different versions of the Covid-19 virus month apart.

According to the study paper, the patient was a 33-year-old man who was in good health. When he was first infected he suffered a cough, sore throat, fever and headache for three days. He had a test that confirmed Covid-19 and he was hospitalised on March 29.



He was discharged on 14 April after two negative swab tests.

Four and a half months later he was returning to Hong Kong from Spain via the UK when he tested positive during entry screening at Hong King airport on 15 August. He was hospitalised again but had no symptoms throughout.

Edit: covered earlier.

 

[Healdplace]

As he was young and recovered first time be interesting to see if he is more or less sick this time around as - mutation or not - you would expect some residual memory of how to cope within the body getting it twice in a few weeks.

Of course, it could be like a cold (which is another form of coronavirus) and mostly depends on the viral load to see how sick you get each time.

Wonder if there is any evidence about catching colds twice a few weeks apart. As best I recall it largely depends on the strength of your immune system how easily you catch a cold after just having one. Though it is usually the same one not being cleared properly and not two different viruses.

 

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First human reinfected with coronavirus, study claims

Hong Kong man experienced a second infection of Covid-19 just four months after recovering from earlier sickness

www.independent.co.uk

Here's hoping this is a unique event or rare, if not its looking like the virus has mutated enough to cause reinfection.



Edit: covered earlier.

As people have pointed out online, there will always be outliers. No professors expected full immunity forever, as that's just not normal for coronaviruses. They just expected it to last a certain decent of time. As with everything it'll vary though. There will some people who have very short immunity, some that have really long immunity. Most in the middle.

Professors suspect this is the first outlier. There have been millions of cases during a pandemic that's last several months now, and this is the first confirmed reinfection. My first impression was concern, but the more I think about it, I don't think its a particularly big deal. There was always going to be some quicker to reinfect than others, this is that person. I don't think this will be a general rule of thumb though.

Thankfully too apparently their symptoms were asymptomatic the second time round, whereas previously it was a mild case with some symptoms. Implies they lessen on reinfection, which many have guessed would happen.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

As he was young and recovered first time be interesting to see if he is more or less sick this time around as - mutation or not - you would expect some residual memory of how to cope within the body getting it twice in a few weeks.

Of course, it could be like a cold (which is another form of coronavirus) and mostly depends on the viral load to see how sick you get each time.

Wonder if there is any evidence about catching colds twice a few weeks apart. As best I recall it largely depends on the strength if your immune system how easily you catch a cold.

A simple to understand thread on the subject in question. Makes sense, it's not as bad news as the headline suggests.

 

[Healdplace]

Usain Bolt tests positive after a birthday party where Raheem was present.

 

[BlueHammer85]

As people have pointed out online, there will always be outliers. No professors expected full immunity forever, as that's just not normal for coronaviruses. They just expected it to last a certain decent of time. As with everything it'll vary though. There will some people who have very short immunity, some that have really long immunity. Most in the middle.

Professors suspect this is the first outlier. There have been millions of cases during a pandemic that's last several months now, and this is the first confirmed reinfection. My first impression was concern, but the more I think about it, I don't think its a particularly big deal. There was always going to be some quicker to reinfect than others, this is that person. I don't think this will be a general rule of thumb though.

Thankfully too apparently their symptoms were asymptomatic the second time round, whereas previously it was a mild case with some symptoms. Implies they lessen on reinfection, which many have guessed would happen.

Agree, this is just one of those one off cases and there will be a few more for sure, but no where near an alarming scale.
A bit like a Baby dying of covid, or a animal testing positive , it will happen, but it is extremely rare.

 

[Healdplace]

All settings deaths 4.

New cases 853.

Good news first sub 1000 in 5 days.

But not much use without knowing how many tests they did in England. We know it from all three other nations. But once again England has declined to tell us.

And the gov uk site does not even reveal the other three nation test numbers either for past 4 days - even though the countries themselves tell you (as did England up to last week)! Almost as if England don't want you to know they are the only ones not willing to share this data.

 

[Healdplace]

Okay Regional scoreboard ia promising too.

London 138 (down a little from 154 but still up on most of last week)

Midlands 77 (down significantly on 109 and lowest in 8 days).

Yorks & Humber 81 (big drop from 121 to lowest in 8 days)


North West 148 (so still highest but largest fall down from 193 and lowest regional total in 25 days).

 

[Healdplace]

GM total is really good news. Only the second sub 100 number in the past 3 weeks. At 89 it is exactly the same as last Monday.

So my only caveat is that this will be Sunday testing data so it may be way below weekdays for all we know (given we dont get told now as I keep pointing out).

And after 89 last Monday it rose to 154 the following day. So we might expect some catch up tomorrow.

Note though that 89 of the 148 North West cases are from Greater Manchester.

 

[kippaxwarrior]

@Healdplace and here do I find the Oldham data.

Just had to do some shopping in Oldham town centre and it was busy but hardly anyone wearing face protection.