COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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I would say Taiwan did a very good job. Considering they were one of the countries most highly considered to be affected. Millions of people flying between there and China yet only about 50 cases. They changed how they communicated, and took stark measures immediately.
Taiwan is strangely not part of the WHO as Beijing objected so have not been involved in discussions around the Coronavirus outbreak. Look at how they dealt with it and thing is they learnt their lesson from other outbreaks
 
It doesn’t make his point.

The mortality rate of regular flu is about 0.1%. The mortality of coronavirus is conservatively 1% and potentially as high as 3.5%, so at least 10 times more deadly.

Also, the NHS is geared up to deal with the regular flu and can quite accurately predict the numbers and it has enough capacity to cope.

With coronavirus, it’s spreading so quickly that the major problem is the NHS does not have the capacity to deal with all of those people all at the same time.

There are only a finite amount of beds, so when they are all taken up the doctors are going to have to make decisions on who gets treated - the elderly coronavirus patient or the kid who’s got leukaemia.

The idea of Social Distancing isn’t to protect yourself from getting it if you’re fit and healthy. It’s to slow down the rate at which this spreads so that the NHS doesn’t collapse because it can’t cope with the volume of people all at one time.

I really cant understand why people cannot comprehend the above. It's that fucking simple.
 
I went Tesco before. Had them cheap toilet rolls in stock. Packs of 4. So I put 2 packs in my trolley. I have a family of 5!. Got to the till and was told I was only allowed 1 pack. The woman in front of me had just purchased a big pack of 18 toilet rolls.

She caused a big scene by asking the manager to come over. Society has become ridiculous.

All because of wankers over the past week filling trolleys full of toilet rolls. Normal folk who don't panic buy have to wipe there arse with kitchen roll.
eBay is full of bog roll at ridiculous prices. Hope the cunts end up stuck with it.
 
Just to be clear. the WHO value of 3.5% is not a mortality rate. It is deaths / reported cases.

The WHO are treating it as one in the same at the moment.

they assumed the known cases in China were the tip of the ice berg so they went looking for the main body of the icerberg and didn’t find it.

at that point ( a week or 2 ago ) they stated 3.5% as the mortality rate.
 
I would say Taiwan did a very good job. Considering they were one of the countries most highly considered to be affected. Millions of people flying between there and China yet only about 50 cases. They changed how they communicated, and took stark measures immediately.

And stopped flights arriving from Whuhan in December. They saw it coming after their experience in 2003.
 
Buy kitchen roll before everyone thinks about it,you can't put it down the loo but it doesn't kill the greeks to bag it
Me and my family have had to do just that over the past few days. Havent been able to find toilet roll anywhere.

It's like wiping your arse with a pillow though!
 
I see the UK figures have been delayed today. No doubt so they can see it they all had underlying health issues.

59 year old died today. These ages are plummeting by the day.
 
Karen, read it again.
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"We think this virus is likely to be one that comes year on year, becomes like a seasonal virus," he told Sky News.

"Communities will become immune to it and that's going to be an important part of controlling this longer term.

"About 60% is the sort of figure you need to get herd immunity.""

that is not the same as saying the current plans aim is to use herd immunity.

They have been clear about the strategy and where we are in it and why it's the strategy and how extreme the measures will become and why they are not doing everything right now.
my last reply before i put you ignore,from day one the gov and health advisors have talked about herd immunity as their plan,their actions confirm that plan,we would still be going to football and other mass gatherings if the football authorities hadn't have pulled the plug,you have sought to take this down party lines,it is way beyond that
 
Karen, read it again.
"We think this virus is likely to be one that comes year on year, becomes like a seasonal virus," he told Sky News.
"Communities will become immune to it and that's going to be an important part of controlling this longer term.
"About 60% is the sort of figure you need to get herd immunity.""
that is not the same as saying the current plans aim is to use herd immunity.
They have been clear about the strategy and where we are in it and why it's the strategy and how extreme the measures will become and why they are not doing everything right now.
" that is not the same as saying the current plan aims to use herd immunity"
But they didn't say that did they.
They just left it hanging there.
Clear and concise messaging is required.
 
I wonder if we've already had this and we weren't aware, before and over Christmas at varying times 6 of my immediate family including myself had the symptoms described for this virus, we all had it for differing periods but all had high temperature, sore throats and coughs, the younger of us seemed to be OK within 3-5days, the older family members struggled to shift it though and it hung around them for a month or so, none of us recieved any medical treatment just went along with usual advice for colds and flu, the mother in law and father in law did struggle to shift it though
 
Back to my point that our approach has not been that dissimilar to the approach on the continent. And it’s not really an approach it’s recognising the inevitable and trying to keep it manageable with the restrictive measures. Our argument is about when to introduce restrictive measures albeit a good section of the UK population has self imposed restrictive measures anyway.

BREAKING. According to Le Figaro, also French President Macron is silently supporting the "HERD IMMUNITY OPTION" to fight #CoronaVirus, in a similar approach to the UK’

https://www.lefigaro.fr/sciences/la...e-groupe-pour-arreter-le-coronavirus-20200313
 
The converse is also true. The desire to support, the need to see a purposeful pattern in what the Govt does. In times of crisis it becomes an article of faith that the Govt has got this right and is listening to the best advice. To achieve this we have had Britain leads to world in this field and our unique approach is better than mass lockdowns.

In reality what we were doing wasn’t that much difference from the continent given the different timeline and our comms strategy is a mess as I have already pointed out with the ‘business as usual’ quickly followed by ‘restrictive measures on the way’ as the British public and industry were not going with ‘business as usual’.

All week we had discussion on ‘herd immunity’ and in one paywalled article the Health Sec. says it was never a thing. In what universe does someone think this contradiction is good comms strategy or putting briefings by a Health minister behind a paywall or anonymous briefings to journos is a good way to handle the situation?
That last part beggars belief. The greatest threat this country has faced in many of our generations and only a select few should be privy to the latest information. Unfuckingbelievable.
 
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