COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[artfuldodger]

Indeed. I popped into Tesco earlier. It was hammered. Full families trudging round and absolutely no social distancing at all going on. I turned around and left as it was chaos.

My poor teenage daughter has a Xmas job at Tesco’s and is today battling against panic buyers. Families coming in in groups of 6 or 7, splitting up and buying essentials in bulk. She spotted one woman buying the maximum allowed of Christmas staples, then coming back 5 mins later with a hat on try again.

 

[M18CTID]

I wonder how many COVID would have killed had we not bothered with any precautions or lock downs?

It doesn’t bear thinking about - probably half a million or more as @roubaixtuesday said, assuming everyone in the UK got it and a near 1% fatality rate but try telling that to the assorted Covidiots and conspiracy theorists.

Latest one I heard from our local tin foil hat wearer yeaterday when I said that they wouldn’t have shut London down as strictly as they have for shits and giggles was that they would do it for shits and giggles and it’s all down to Prince Charles and the position he holds in the World Economic Forum. Apparently this was all agreed back in June and it’s all about the New World Order and an economic reset. How he thinks Ol’ Big Ears has influence over our government and the rest of the world is beyond me. Anyway, I did some digging when I got home and the WEF does exist and Prince Charles is involved. They also put forward a proposal for an economic reset back in May but not one that fucks the average man in the street over - it’s a proposal to get the world economy back on its feet following the pandemic. In any case it’s only a proposal but off the back of that the inevitable conspiracy theories have come about regarding a power grab and all that bollocks, and somewhat hilariously the conspiracy theorists reckon Donald Trump is the only leader in the world who is trying to stop it! Funny that as I don’t recall Trump himself mentioning this horseshit in any of his Twitter rants.

 

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My poor teenage daughter has a Xmas job at Tesco’s and is today battling against panic buyers. Families coming in in groups of 6 or 7, splitting up and buying essentials in bulk. She spotted one woman buying the maximum allowed of Christmas staples, then coming back 5 mins later with a hat on try again.

Selfish, ignorant, oxygen thieves.

 

[Healdplace]

I know it’s like guessing the minds of a bunch of lunatics but do you think there’s any chance of our Christmas Day being canned too?

Should have been lockdown as soon as they knew what was happening as one day of madness will be weeks of mourning.

 

[ultimateharold]

My poor teenage daughter has a Xmas job at Tesco’s and is today battling against panic buyers. Families coming in in groups of 6 or 7, splitting up and buying essentials in bulk. She spotted one woman buying the maximum allowed of Christmas staples, then coming back 5 mins later with a hat on try again.

She'd be better off trying Office Depot.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

EU approve Pfizer vaccine saying no evidence it won't work against new strain.
Also USA rolling out Moderna vaccine now so millions more now getting the jab.
Two bits of good news on the global front.
With the anticipated approval of AZ vaccine later this month things could be looking up ( at least on the vaccine front) by the year end.

Good news, but just to be really picky, is no evidence that it doesn't work the same thing as evidence that it does?

 

[Healdplace]

As I have said for weeks on here and my 'mate' Eammon mentioned on TV last week (though not via reading here I am sure as he is a United fan and it is a pretty obvious idea many have considered) - but there was a very easy way out for Boris that he never took.

Tell everyone that we MUST be in lockdown as we roll out this vaccine and suppress this new strain.

But in the Spring when we are in a better position to do so we will create a brand new bank holiday where a turkey dinner for the family will be centre piece - perhaps even in the garden in the Sun by then.

We can call it Thanksgiving and use it to give thanks for the doctors and nurses and scientists and support workers who got us through.

THAT would have won him friends not enemies.

Sell it as 2021 - the year with two Christmases. Emphasise the positive.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

Once vaccines are being rolled out doesn't mass testing become something of a waste of resources even if it was more accurate?

It’s value is debatable even when using good quality tests conducted by knowledgeable individuals. Just a PR excercise in it’s current form imo.

 

[artfuldodger]

I know it’s like guessing the minds of a bunch of lunatics but do you think there’s any chance of our Christmas Day being canned too?

You would think that if it were to be nationwide, he’d have said so on Saturday. But who knows. I hope not.

 

[roubaixtuesday]

Good news, but just to be really picky, is no evidence that it doesn't work the same thing as evidence that it does?

I guess you can't get definitive evidence of that without repeating the trial with genetic sequencing of all the variants causing cases, and sufficient of those being the new variant to say with confidence it doesn't affect efficacy...

I don't know what lab tests can be done to predict vaccine efficacy vs any particular strain, or how definitive they are but I think it would be a huge surprise if there was a significant reduction for this variant.