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Does anyone ever think how different this thread would be if Arteta hadn’t contracted Coronavirus just before our game? That was the best thing that could have happened for tens and tens of thousands of people in Manchester and beyond. Who knows how many members of this board and/or family members would have perished if that game had gone ahead.
 
jay_mcfc said:
Does anyone ever think how different this thread would be if Arteta hadn’t contracted Coronavirus just before our game? That was the best thing that could have happened for tens and tens of thousands of people in Manchester and beyond. Who knows how many members of this board and/or family members would have perished if that game had gone ahead.
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We’d already sold our tickets for the game, too dangerous
 
andyhinch said:
There are firm rules about the use off PPE and barrier procedures these don’t change because of a crisis, or at least shouldn’t.
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They just have.

The one that seems most controversial is the extended use of the same PPE for different patients (sessional use).

"A session ends when the health and social care worker leaves the clinical care setting or exposure environment. Once the PPE has been removed it should be disposed of safely. The duration of a single session will vary depending on the clinical activity being undertaken.

"While generally considered good practice, there is no evidence to show that discarding disposable respirators, facemasks or eye protection in between each patient reduces the risk of infection transmission to the health and social care worker or the patient. Indeed, frequent handling of this equipment to discard and replace it could theoretically increase risk of exposure in high demand environments, for example, by leading to increasing face touching during removal. The rationale for recommending sessional use in certain circumstances is therefore to reduce risk of inadvertent indirect transmission, as well as to facilitate delivery of efficient clinical care."
 
Vic said:
They just have.

The one that seems most controversial is the extended use of the same PPE for different patients (sessional use).

"A session ends when the health and social care worker leaves the clinical care setting or exposure environment. Once the PPE has been removed it should be disposed of safely. The duration of a single session will vary depending on the clinical activity being undertaken.

"While generally considered good practice, there is no evidence to show that discarding disposable respirators, facemasks or eye protection in between each patient reduces the risk of infection transmission to the health and social care worker or the patient. Indeed, frequent handling of this equipment to discard and replace it could theoretically increase risk of exposure in high demand environments, for example, by leading to increasing face touching during removal. The rationale for recommending sessional use in certain circumstances is therefore to reduce risk of inadvertent indirect transmission, as well as to facilitate delivery of efficient clinical care."
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I’m not sure that makes much sense tbh, I used to wear full PPE most days at work (admittedly in a completely different industry) and believe me there were no grey areas.
 
Now Prime Minister Stefan Löfven has has admitted that Sweden was not properly prepared for the pandemic and that it is "obvious that country has not done enough".

The fuck was they playing at.
 
Marvin said:
A good picture of Spain's epidemic coming under control undistorted by changes in testing rates.
Source: https://covid19.isciii.es/

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Statisticians please!

Deducting recovered from hospitalised, does that mean they currently have only about 7,000 in hospital but most of those are still in intensive care? Or is the intensive care figure those who have had IC and many are now recovered? And many dead who never got into intensive care?
 
jay_mcfc said:
Does anyone ever think how different this thread would be if Arteta hadn’t contracted Coronavirus just before our game? That was the best thing that could have happened for tens and tens of thousands of people in Manchester and beyond. Who knows how many members of this board and/or family members would have perished if that game had gone ahead.
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It was postponed as they had played Olympiakos whose owner had it, Arteta probably had it by then but it wasn't known. The Old Trafford game a few days earlier could have done with calling off as well, a absolute petri dish. I had dome concerns over the LC final as well and stayed off the tube.
 
jimharri said:
I never passed any comment on the quality of his documentaries. In fact, his stuff is, on the whole, pretty decent. I just find this idea to be objectionable.
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I meant, I think he’s doing it in good faith as his previous works shows. I don’t thinks he’s jumping on the bandwagon as has been suggested
 
Corky said:
It was postponed as they had played Olympiakos whose owner had it, Arteta probably had it by then but it wasn't known. The Old Trafford game a few days earlier could have done with calling off as well, a absolute petri dish. I had dome concerns over the LC final as well and stayed off the tube.
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They gave the go-ahead on Gov’t advice about an hour before Arteta got it then changed their mind the morning after.
 
BlueHammer85 said:
Now Prime Minister Stefan Löfven has has admitted that Sweden was not properly prepared for the pandemic and that it is "obvious that country has not done enough".

The fuck was they playing at.
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We called it on here for weeks ago didn’t we? What did he miss? That there was a pandemic knocking about?
 
Gelsons Dad said:
Update for today. Note that yesterdays 117 is already 442 and i think may end up over 800.

I was wondering about the March 31 drop then realised that's the effect of the first intervention back on the 12th when 7 days isolation was introduced so I added markers for the other interventions with a similar lag. Too early to see anything yet.
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@Chippy_boy @Coatigan . These are the table and graphs I mentioned this morning.
 
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