COVID-19 — Coronavirus

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This graph explains a lot, a SEVEN day rolling total.

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Even when you have it under control people keep dying and the decline in deaths is slow.

Anyone expecting it to fall off a cliff is being ridiculously optimistic.
How the epidemic behaves is a function of what a country does. Mass-test and it will fall a lot faster. See South Korea (they had 6 new cases today. 6.)

You have to take into account that PH England are gearing the UK for the long game because I think they are in the immunity route. They could well be right to do so too.

Here are the New York hospitalisation data. That's a rapid change. If you presented the UK data like that, it might look similar to be honest as it's gone from positive to negative but note the difference in presentation of data. That is in itself telling. The UK prepares people for the long haul, but there are actually two strategies which seem to have been forgotten. One is suppression. Even government supporters must admit that the UK is not going all out against the virus.

I haven't yet decided which strategy is right. A scientist should look at the data and see what that says. The missing data is antibodies. Is immunity attainable? That should really determine whether you go for it, or go for total suppression.

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I'm sure Harley Street clinics will be running scams. Clearly there is a test as I know people who have had it and got their results. The people who came back as having it were all the ones who had shown some symptoms, the others had no symptoms but we're advised to take test as they had been in close contact with people who had it.

You get so touchy when theres potential good news I think you are secretly enjoying this and spreading doom stories.
Now you are saying they had the test to say if they have it,that is a completely different test,you can get.the test privately that the gov have for nhs workers and myself,that is not an antibody test,you are muddled up at best
I am sticking with the facts,watch what was said by dr whitty in the briefing today and what the WHO have to say about testing
 
Now you are saying they had the test to say if they have it,that is a completely different test,you can get.the test privately that the gov have for nhs workers and myself,that is not an antibody test,you are muddled up at best
I am sticking with the facts,watch what was said by dr whitty in the briefing today and what the WHO have to say about testing

Read the link I posted a couple of posts up. It is an antibody test.

Also read about Germany who are currently conducting nationwide antibody tests. Yes that's the one country in Europe dealing with this well by the way. But of course they can't be real tests as the experts on here know best as usual.
 
How does everyone think we'll come out of this step by step?

Wonder when we'll be able to visit other people again. A year?
At first we should still be advised to stay at home if we can, and I’d go for:

Office workers still asked to work from home if they can
Click and collect for workmen to get their materials and tools
Supermarkets will still have outdoor queues
Shops pubs and restaurants will have limits on numbers
Schools might have staggered year days (Yr 7 9 11 Mon Wed Fri; Yr 8 10 + 6th form Tue Thu, and swap the next week, for example). Maybe even do new timetables so there aren’t 30 in every class?
No gigs or football games with fans

See how big the second wave that comes from this from there.

I personally wouldn’t bring this in for a while yet though.
 
this kind of mindset is the problem

Why? Because in my opinion when they open offices, cafes and shops people will be able to visit eachother? I've stuck to the lockdown to the letter of the law, why is my mindset an issue?

If they say you can't visit anyone for the rest of the year there is no chance everyone will abide by that.
 
You seriously think itll only be a few weeks?
It hasn't actually stopped people in some cases, a couple in our block have another couple round staying the night, watched them turn up earlier swap their cars round, and then disappear in together with plenty of alcohol, its a one bed flat too.
 
Read the link I posted a couple of posts up. It is an antibody test.

Also read about Germany who are currently conducting nationwide antibody tests. Yes that's the one country in Europe dealing with this well by the way. But of course they can't be real tests as the experts on here know best as usual.
I have just read the germany study,they have tried it on 1,000 patients,it is still in a trial,if they had a reliable test we would be buying it ,anyone buying in antibody tests and saying they are reliable or can tell you if you have enough antibodies to stop you from getting re-infected needs shooting,it is way too soon into this new covid 19 infection to be sure about anything
I accept they had a test if you say they did but please tell them they need to keep to the rules the same as the rest of us until such time as we and the WHO confirm a test that has ben trialled and passed as accurate
 
You will be able to visit people again in the next few weeks. Large gatherings won't be allowed but they are not going to stop people seeing people for a year.

Really? Cant see that at all. If they say that we'll be able to visit people we will back at square one within two weeks.

Another question is would anyone even feel comfortable visiting anyone in a few weeks? If I felt like I'd passed something on to my dad and anything happened to him I'd not be able to live with myself.
 
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