COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[kaz7]

American states saying the antibody tests that the FDA let flood the market are useless and the federal gov are not taking results from all states anyway,only new york are confident in their testing

 

[Sheriff Fatman]

Until we get mass testing then this will be around a long time.
2% of our population has been tested, that's all. Yet some people crave for lockdown to be released.
The testing situation is a national disgrace.

The whole handling of this is a national disgrace. Plenty of warning. Too little action and far too late. To me it looks like we're about to feck up again with the relaxations. In about a month's time we'll know for sure.

 

[Fame Monster]

I think from what I have read that's unlikely. Also we could develop an effective treatment if not a vaccine. So that people can catch it, develop natural immunity but not die in such great numbers. But if neither are possible, then we just have to accept that probably something like half a million people die.

I don't know about you, but from my perspective, I think we should be a damned sight more certain that there can be no vaccine and no cure, before just accepting half a million deaths. So we have to follow the social distancing and other preventative measures to the greatest extent possible for now, and prevent as many people as possible from catching it. More infections just means more deaths. And whilst there is hope of a vaccine then avoidable deaths are unnecessary deaths.

Exactly.

I admit I'm a glass half-empty person but you'd have to be a negative **** in the extreme to have 'herd immunity' as plan A. Whoever came up with that needs a bit of fucking cheer in their life and a bit of faith in humanity.

 

[True_Blue69]

The whole handling of this is a national disgrace. Plenty of warning. Too little action and far too late. To me it looks like we're about to feck up again with the relaxations. In about a month's time we'll know for sure.

We won't know anything for sure in a month. It will be 2 years plus until we know which approach was correct.

Sweden haven't locked down and have less deaths per capita than us, despite Stockholm being more densely populated than London.

No one knows for sure who's approach will turn out to be right and wont until the thing has pissed off.

 

[MeatnSpudsMCFC]

Not read the article yet but front page of The Times states we’re in lockdown until June.


That bloke from Wetherspoons is going to go mental.

 

[Fame Monster]

We won't know anything for sure in a month. It will be 2 years plus until we know which approach was correct.

Sweden haven't locked down and have less deaths per capita than us, despite Stockholm being more densely populated than London.

No one knows for sure who's approach will turn out to be right and wont until the thing has pissed off.

Sweden restricted mass gatherings and flights in March. Time will tell but it looks like the obvious measures could be the most effective.

 

[robbieh]

We won't know anything for sure in a month. It will be 2 years plus until we know which approach was correct.

Sweden haven't locked down and have less deaths per capita than us, despite Stockholm being more densely populated than London.

No one knows for sure who's approach will turn out to be right and wont until the thing has pissed off.

And far more than Denmark and Norway put together.

 

[Sheriff Fatman]

We won't know anything for sure in a month. It will be 2 years plus until we know which approach was correct.

Sweden haven't locked down and have less deaths per capita than us, despite Stockholm being more densely populated than London.

No one knows for sure who's approach will turn out to be right and wont until the thing has pissed off.

We already know our approach has been wrong, or more accurately we simply reacted way too late. In a month's time we'll know if the timing of the decision to ease things from this weekend is wrong, not the whole thing.

 

[Chappie]

Not read the article yet but front page of The Times states we’re in lockdown until June.


That bloke from Wetherspoons is going to go mental.

It doesn't take Einstein to work that one out.
Today's the 7th plus 21 days = 28th which falls on a Thursday so no one will go back on the Friday so the following Monday is June.

 

[birchwoodgingerste]

I agree. Saying that I don’t think they will relax too much. The big test is when the kids go back to school.

Yeh watched the news before im sure they said once the kids go back they can ride a bike but no football.

 

[Vic]

Not read the article yet but front page of The Times states we’re in lockdown until June.


That bloke from Wetherspoons is going to go mental.

Too late.

 

[kaz7]

Just so you know the plan:

How can you do social distancing having a massage? Asking for @jimharri mate

 

[Fame Monster]

How can you do social distancing having a massage? Asking for @jimharri mate

According to my recent research on the internet, the technical term is 'Nuru'.

 

[johnnytapia]

i heard on radio that when the schools go back,they will drop the fixed penalty to alow parents to decide

Thanks for that mate, I hadnt heard that.

 

[kaz7]

I've no idea as I hate massage.
Just out of interest for those wondering. "erotic massage" is still not allowed. Prostitution is not illegal in Switzerland but it is heavily controlled and in the local rag there was an article making it clear that it's still off limits due to covid. i had to laugh that they even thought it necessary to state it!

Ha ha,they should have made it clear here for our idiot footballer ! Laying hands on somebody is weird,the americans are doing it whilst telling people to stay 2m away from each other,i have visions of being massaged by a broom with a 2m long handle lol

 

[PragueBlue]

Just so you know the plan:

Similar to the plan of the Czech Republic. Will be interesting to see how they both go. I think Greece are also starting similar loosening of restrictions.

They all have a lot less cases than we do. Hopefully another month of lockdown can get us down to similar levels so we can start relaxing measures in a similar way if it works out there.

 

[johnmc]

I’d lift the lock down by age looking at the stats. Sounds daft but shield the vulnerable. Don’t make anyone work who lives with anyone over 65 years of age and they can be furloughed.

 

[kaz7]

According to my recent research on the internet, the technical term is 'Nuru'.

phew that wasn't too bad when I googled it ! I thought it was a blue waffle type trap lol

 

[Scouse Blue]

All. Look at the statistics more closely. Alarming overall death rate, but analyse the % death rate of over 70 years of age versus the rest. Then factor in the BAME disproportionate death rate. Its very, very very sad but I watched a local news clop the other night at a care home. 4 very elderly residents were actually physically swapping saliva. They were each taking turns in taking turns in biting into a quarter piece of Victoria sponge. Before anyone says this is unbelievable, carers can't have eyes in the back of their head, and this was a piece on Covid on the local news. Finally, sadly gone before their time because of this horrible disease, but take a look at what percentage of people admitted to care homes ever come out in normal times. It may shock you. Apologies, but I have spent all day finalising extended furloughs and redundancy schedules for more than 3,000 people. We desperately need to kick start our economy.

 

[Cheer Up Peter Reid]

Until we get mass testing then this will be around a long time.
2% of our population has been tested, that's all. Yet some people crave for lockdown to be released.
The testing situation is a national disgrace.

Having watched footage of recent tests being performed I would not be surprised if they are resulting in cross contamination of samples and possibly also spreading the virus to some that don't already have it. Lines of cars with windows down and people hacking up out of them, and squadies taking swabs without changing gloves inbetween patients does not look anything like good practice to me.

Anyway what purpose does testing if someone currently has the virus serve? It is only really of use to essential workers so they can go back to work if negative, the rest of us should just stay home if we have symptoms unless hospitalised in which case we'll be tested anyway. And the whole concept of pop-up test centres is even more bizarre, maybe people are supposed to try to time catching the virus so they can get tested while the circus is in town.

The tests that would be of real use in my opinion are antibody tests, but that seems to be a totally unregulated market currently so much so that even the government were ripped off to the tune of a few million quid purchasing unreliable test kits from some Chinese firm.