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karen7 said:
Brazil has only just got it,it has blown right up and they had 860 deaths just yesterday they are struggling and the weather is still hot ,they should not be flying anywhere as they have no control yet and have densely populated areas,ireland has had three months to sort themselves out
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all true but as a numbers man for me that doesnt make it any more likely that somebody will have it on a flight from brazil than from ireland given that the stats i quoted are accurate

obviously the bare numbers need crunching, sao paolo is a major metropolis after all and likely to have a higher infection rate but even so i'd be just as worried (or just as unworried given the relatively small risk involved) about irish arrivals
 
Boris Becker’s Backhand said:
all true but as a numbers man for me that doesnt make it any more likely that somebody will have it on a flight from brazil than from ireland given that the stats i quoted are accurate

obviously the bare numbers need crunching, sao paolo is a major metropolis after all and likely to have a higher infection rate but even so i'd be just as worried (or just as unworried given the relatively small risk involved) about irish arrivals
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i don't know what Brazil's R number is but I would imagine quite high,they are three months behind Europe ,they are struggling badly,nobody should be allowed in from there,they are not getting into the states
 
One of the scientist is talking about the Oxford trial,he is saying it is 50/50 that we get a good vaccine ,the way we get rid of the virus is not just a vaccine but behavior,social distancing and the rest,we can't go back to old life for a long time,if ever

Also half of the states in U.S. Have the paediatric inflammatory syndrome,those are having a post covid reaction,still rare but 300 cases there

We have had a few here with at least one death

Don't freak about it as it is still rare

CNN
 
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Boris Becker’s Backhand said:
Brazil confirmed cases 375,000 ..... population 210m ..... 1 in 500 people have it

Ireland, just as an example, confirmed cases 25,000 .... population 5m ........ 1 in 200 people have it

ergo there's more chance of a visitor from Ireland having the virus assuming the same number of people arrive from each country

half a dozen flights are arriving from Dublin into the UK tomorrow

is that stupid too ?
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Ireland have an excellent testing regime and a falling number of cases.
And Brazil, personally I don't know but I suspect not. Numbers of positive cases is meaningless without knowledge of how the numbers are derived.
 
can someone tell me who is actually on these flights coming in from places like Brazil? business? UK residents returning? holidaymakers??
 
Weekly deaths updated.

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As Claytop points out here, the previous week had under reporting so that will have been rounded into the following week.

https://forums.bluemoon-mcfc.co.uk/threads/covid-19-—-coronavirus.344314/page-4422#post-12678554
 
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GornikDaze said:
Money?
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For me, we should’ve stopped crowds going to sporting events sooner and I think both were bad decisions but I don’t think there was anything particularly sinister in letting those events go ahead. Cheltenham started on the Tuesday and the Liverpool game was the same night but we need to remember that just 2 days earlier we played a derby at Old Trafford and there was never any suggestion that that game should be called off. Also, our game at home to Arsenal the night after the Liverpool v Atletico game would’ve been played if some Arsenal players hadn’t been in contact with a virus carrier. It was during that week that things seemed to move very fast for me - from attending the derby match (my third game in 7 days after Wembley and Hillsborough) on the Sunday and the virus being a talking point but by no means the main topic of conversation, the whole thing escalated like fuck over the next few days and by the end of that week when I finished work on the Friday, I went home and pretty much battened down the hatches for the weekend.
 
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M18CTID said:
For me, we should’ve stopped crowds going to spirting events sooner and I think both were bad decisions but I don’t think there was anything particularly sinister in letting those events go ahead. Cheltenham started on the Tuesday and the Liverpool game was the same night but we need to remember that just 2 days earlier we played a derby at Old Trafford and there was never any suggestion that that game should be called off. Also, our game at home to Arsenal the night after the Liverpool v Atletico game would’ve been played if some Arsenal players hadn’t been in contact with a virus carrier. It was during that week that things seemed to move very fast for me - from attending the derby match (my third game in 7 days after Wembley and Hillsborough) on the Sunday and the virus being a talking point but by no means the main topic of conversation, the whole thing escalated like fuck over the next few days and by the end of that week when I finished work on the Friday, I went home and pretty much battened down the hatches for the weekend.
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I agree Simon but I would have kept going to games (like many other Blues) until the matches were called off so I feel a bit hypocritical expecting the Govt or the Prem to Cancel football for me. That said, they are positions of power to make the tougher decisions.
 
twosips said:
It's been 18 days since VE day now. Have we seen any notable rises since then? Just curious.
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im not convinced this is VE day.

18 days since VE day.

going by averages.

5 days for average incubation + its week 2 normally for hospitalisation so that's 12 days.
 
M18CTID said:
For me, we should’ve stopped crowds going to spirting events sooner and I think both were bad decisions but I don’t think there was anything particularly sinister in letting those events go ahead. Cheltenham started on the Tuesday and the Liverpool game was the same night but we need to remember that just 2 days earlier we played a derby at Old Trafford and there was never any suggestion that that game should be called off. Also, our game at home to Arsenal the night after the Liverpool v Atletico game would’ve been played if some Arsenal players hadn’t been in contact with a virus carrier. It was during that week that things seemed to move very fast for me - from attending the derby match (my third game in 7 days after Wembley and Hillsborough) on the Sunday and the virus being a talking point but by no means the main topic of conversation, the whole thing escalated like fuck over the next few days and by the end of that week when I finished work on the Friday, I went home and pretty much battened down the hatches for the weekend.
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The government were too slow. The Cup final should have been postponed, it was clear what was coming but the government was like a rabbitt caught in headlines, and the footballing powers wanted desperately to grab a few more quid while they still could get away with it.
 
Boris Becker’s Backhand said:
Brazil confirmed cases 375,000 ..... population 210m ..... 1 in 500 people have it

Ireland, just as an example, confirmed cases 25,000 .... population 5m ........ 1 in 200 people have it

ergo there's more chance of a visitor from Ireland having the virus assuming the same number of people arrive from each country

half a dozen flights are arriving from Dublin into the UK tomorrow

is that stupid too ?
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Your logic is flawed, Ireland is around 4 or 5 weeks ahead of Brazil in the first wave so the majority of their 25,000 cases will have either died or recovered and no longer be infectious. Brazil on the other hand is at or near the peak of the first wave and a higher proportion of their 375,000 will still be infectious.
 
twosips said:
Is this not just down to it being a beach resort and tourists though
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From Sky it sounds more a precaution as its a small hospital with adequate provision nearby sure there are posters on here from around there who will know better.
 
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