COVID-19 — Coronavirus

[Churchlawtonblue]

There is a substantial difference in population PER SQUARE Mile, and according to google search engine, Sweden has a population of 57.5 people per square mile. Great Britain has a population of 1010 people per square mile, a substantial difference. From this I would deduce that Swedes have little reason to worry about social distancing except in towns and cities in the south of the country.

Thats not really directly relevant as the vast majority of Swedens population live in a small part of the country. The majority of it is very sparsely populated.

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

It has to be down to the number who caught it earlier in the year. I said this at the time that those 3 weeks that London was ahead of us (and Italy) may turn out to be a good thing in the long run and that's how it's panning out.

untill mass antibody testing is available we are not really going to know for sure.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

It has to be down to the number who caught it earlier in the year. I said this at the time that those 3 weeks that London was ahead of us (and Italy) may turn out to be a good thing in the long run and that's how it's panning out.

so that must mean absent a vaccine that all these measures are delaying the inevitable and actually herd immunity whilst protecting the vulnerable works .

 

[I'm no cynic but...]

so by your logic London is the most densely populated city in England why is it not so much worse than other less densely populated places in England , yet doing much better.

London is more populated than Manchester, as you say, but the difference between the two cities is not as wide as GB vs Sweden. London is 15328, Manchester is 12210.

 

[kevin horlocks wand]

London is more populated than Manchester, as you say, but the difference between the two cities is not as wide as GB vs Sweden. London is 15328, Manchester is 12210.

thanks but I am not sure that answers my question, but I think others have suggested the answer in that it may have been more prevalent earlier in the year.

 

[Gaylord du Bois]

The Eu if we took that stance would be outraged and demand Gibraltar or fear of repercussions in trade, we just have to take it on the chin it is what it is at the moment. We cannot do a NZ although we should if we could.

We had well over a million UK residents to repatriate for starters. The majority of whom relied on commercial airlines.
New Zealand however, could basically run a two in, two out, nightclub system as they didn't have the million plus returning from all corners of the earth.

 

[Healdplace]

GM summary for today's 1889 cases

Manchester was way out in front again with 557 cases. And near triple what it was getting a week ago. Its second highest number yet. And 144 up on yesterday.

Its pop score rose by 100 in a day - an otherwise unprecedented event which it has achieved twice in a week showing how big a rise this is comparatively. It was better than GM leader Stockport in the Summer after phase 1 of the pandemic and is now only behind Oldham and likely to overtake it as worst in GM in next couple of days. And quite possibly be the worst in Britain ahead of Leicester (which has its outbreak controlled) in a week or so.

This is a spectacular turn around for the city in just 2 months.

When the restriction started in early August it had 21 cases as you see below.

Week by week since then here you see how it rose with the cases shown on first day of each week through to today. And rolling total of cases for the City afterwards. It did pretty well at first with no big rises. There is clearly a major trigger from mid September that lit a bonfire.

Schools and university returns seem thw most obvious source.


Wk1 - (day 1 cases 21, rolling total 3375) Early Aug

Wk 2 - (cases 38, total 3589)

Wk 3 - (cases 47, total 3856)

Wk 4 - (cases 48, total 4098) (Aug Bank Holiday week)

Wk 5 (cases 26, total 4338) (ist week in September)

Wk 6 (cases 53, total 4687)

Wk 7 (cases 65, total 5118) (schools. universities back or starting to come back)

Wk 8 (cases 146, total 5990)

Wk 9 (cases 223, total 7249) (ist week in late Sep/early October

Rest of that week 414, 347, 214, 546, 1054 (with the add ons), 413.

Today (cases 557, total 10794)

The pop score rose wk by wk above from 603 to 630 to 689 to 730 to 780 to 848 to 947 to 1084 to 1386 then this week as follows day by day - 1448 - 1488 - 1586 - 1777 - 1852 - up to today at 1952 - a UK record rise throughout the pandemic (by a mile) of almost as much as it had totalled in the months from the start in March through to early August.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

so that must mean absent a vaccine that all these measures are delaying the inevitable and actually herd immunity whilst protecting the vulnerable works .

Why don’t the people who believe in herd immunity volunteer to work in the ICU of their local hospital? I’m not talking skilled work, maybe cleaning.

 

[ayrshire_blue]

Been busy today so don't know if this has already been discussed, apologies if so. But saw that the Swedish government are saying to expect restrictions to last at least another year from now over there.

Was sort of hoping we'd get some kind of normality by means of a vaccine or otherwise by spring. Depressing.

 

[Scottyboi]

Loads of people coughing in work today